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November
2, 2011
Charles Page wrote:
John
MacArthur yesterday on Grace to You plainly said: "when
you accept Christ you receive the imputed righteousness of Christ" and he
calls himself a five-point Calvinist. Anyone saying this and saying he is five
points is inconsistent and confused! Good morning America, rise and shine and
give man the glory, children of Pelagius!!!
sing
He
who has a pea mind to think and reason, let us reason together for just a wee
bit.
A
man is conceived and born in his native state of sin and condemnation. He is in
his native un-justified state, i.e. without the imputed righteousness of Jesus
Christ. In his native state, he is DEAD in trespasses and sin. He is dead in
the sense of utterly incapable of performing any activity that brings himself
to God. Instead, he is very much alive in his rebellion and enmity against God!
If
a man in that state is able to accept Christ in order to receive the imputed
righteousness of Christ, then every dead American can eat french fries!
God bless Zohn Mad-udder!
Charles
Page
You
can only get bitter milk from a mad utter!
sing
Bitter
milk is POISONOUS milk... and that's what Zohn Mad-Udder is spewing forth, and
many are addicted to it! Going
off for our mid-week bible study... at Acts 6 this evening.
Michael
D. Green Jr.
I
preached from Acts 6 this past Sunday. Please share your thoughts with me if
you have time 🙂
John M's lordship salvation doctrine is not a far leap to Pelagius, IMO...
sing
The
'reformed' folks rightly say that their regeneration precedes faith, BUT always
insist that their LEGAL justification, the actual imputation of Christ's
righteousness to them follows their act of believing Jesus Christ.
And
no matter how hard you try to explain to them their DEFORMED view, they
refuse to see the plain contradiction in their understanding.
In
their above understanding, they are saying that an UN-justified person is
already regenerated, or a regenerated person is still UN-justified, i.e. still
in his native state of death and condemnation. How about a reformed view that a
man in his native state of death and condemnation is also at the same time
regenerated and able to believe IN ORDER to be justified, i.e. have Christ's
righteousness imputed to him!
How
could an unjustified man be regenerated? Sin brings condemnation and death.
Righteousness is a prerequisite to justification and life. Without the imputation
of Christ's righteousness, there is no justification and no life. Condemnation
and death remain.
Justification is the ground of regeneration: the IMPUTATION of righteousness at the cross, and the APPLICATION of righteousness to an elect personally at the effectual call to grace and salvation is the GROUND of regeneration.
Look
here for the Biblical Order of Salvation in contrast to the Deformed Disorder
of Salvation of the Calvinists.
Things New and Old: The Order of Salvation:
https://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2011/05/order-of-salvation.html
Here
is a messed up order of salvation of the Calvinists.
Things New and Old: A Messed Up Order of Salvation of a Calvinist:
https://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2010/04/messed-up-order-of-salvation-of.html
