How then can man be justified with God? Job 25:4

How then can man be justified with God?
Freely by His grace alone,
based on the righteousness of Christ alone. 

"4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman? 5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight." Job 25. How? How?

So many would answer, quite spontaneously as well as confidently, "A man is justified with God by faith, his act of believing, ya, justification is by faith alone!'

So VERY MANY repeat ad nauseam the heretical platitude - 'a man is justified with God by his faith, EVEN his faith ALONE... as though the faith of such a worm is not 'wormy' enough in God's sight!!!

Romans 3:24 "Being justified FREELY by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus."

How does man's fiction of justification by faith alone compare with God's declaration of justification FREELY by His grace?

Very few understand what 'FREELY' means. From one side of the mouth, they say 'FREELY', from the other side of the SAME mouth, they insist 'by faith alone'! What an example of confusion and delusion!

They probably learn the concept of 'free' from shopping brochures - FREE but terms and conditions apply!

God said He justifies the condemned man FREELY - without requiring man to meet any condition. But haughty and deceived and deluded man would not have it that way. It is too humiliating to him... to be justified so FREELY.

Man insists that God justifies the condemned man on the condition of faith, his believing!

Let God be true and every man a liar!
Ancient Job continues to rebuke such liars!

A third category: God's justification depends on man making that justification effective!

The gospel truth: God justifies the UNGODLY freely by His grace.

Dallas Eaton II
AMEN to the gospel truth.

Sing F Lau
Richard@ 'A question is often better than an answer, I think.'
Amen to that.

That is most certainly true to thinking man... what a thinking man needs are serious and weighty questions to provoke him to search the Scriptures further.

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Sing F Lau
Lisa@ "Good to praise God in this and share with others too."

The only news worth sharing is what the Lord has experienced and done and accomplished for us.

That was the policy of Paul's life... "For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."

He rarely talks about himself... unless when his apostleship is questioned and assaulted.

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Dallas Eaton II
So then, why would Paul choose to 'talk about himself' in defense of his calling to the office of Apostle?

Dallas Eaton II
I am thankful for the great day of worship you have experienced. How was Abraham faithful and obedient in taking Hagar, Sarah's handmaid as a wife to fulfill the plan of God to give him an heir?

Dallas Eaton II
Thanks, Lisa. Richard, you are treading waters over my head, my arms and legs are growing weary...ha ha. Sinless Blood is the source of life if we believe Leviticus 17:11, but I think your statement is in regards to Adam's blood and not that of Christ, which provides for us the covering (atonement).

Lisa, agreed. What loss did Moses suffer, and where does the Bible record his repentance? Yet it was Moses and not David or Abraham upon the mount of transfiguration with Christ?

Dallas Eaton II
It is good to know we are treading the same waters! I have no hope of discovering anything that can or will make me accepted in the Beloved, timely speaking however, having been blessed to have been given hearing ears, I believe I possess an interest in the Hope of Israel and for that I try to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling...but not toward an eternal end.

Dallas Eaton II
Agreed Richard. I rest in Christ alone; but I am responsible for obedient or disobedient actions. Although he does lead His people, He does not perform obedience. Although His righteousness is imputed to us, our works are meant to show forth our living faith, without these our faith is dead, but that does not mean we are dead.

Lisa, I understand. I guess I just don't think of the Spirit as not moving upon the people of God whether they are in knowledge or yet in darkness. I feel His presence on a daily basis, some days more pronounced than others, but always in myself from a recognition of a greater need of His guidance.

Sing F Lau
"I do NOT actually believe that sinless blood causes life. I do believe the sinless blood provided my justification."

Perhaps, it is better to speak of righteousness for justification unto life, and sinless blood (referring to death of a perfect substitute) for the forgiveness of sins.

Both are distinct and difference... a distinction more helpful and needful to know.

Sing F Lau
Dad was "born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

Let God be true, and every man a liar.

The Spirit moves providentially, among men, to restrain some of the wickedness of men, and moves redemptively, to regenerate the elect of God.

Sing F Lau
IT IS FINISHED for a VERY SPECIFIC and PARTICULAR people... even as many as - not one more, and not one less - God the Father had predestinated and given to Christ to redeem, and for whom Christ has completed their eternal redemption... and the Spirit of Christ applying that redemption to each of them in His appointed and approved time.

There is NO - NO - NO grace to the others... though God the Creator is benevolent to all His creatures.

God spared not the angels that sinned - 2Pet 2:4

God spared not the angels that sinned...
What was the sin?
When did it happen?
 What angels were involved?
Why was it so serious in the sight of God?

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 April 17, 2012

 What was the sin, when did it happen, what angels were involved, and why was it so serious in the sight of God????

2 Pet 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly...

1. Concerning the angels mentioned in verse 4:
- Who are the angels that sinned?
- Are they angels prior to their fall or after their fall? (I assume that the fall of some angels took place before the fall of man in the garden of Eden.)
- Does the incident describe the fall of good angels? Why?
- If they were fallen angels, did the event involve ALL the fallen angels?
- Are ALL fallen angels cast down to hell, and delivered into everlasting chains of darkness, and reserved unto judgment?

2. Concerning the angels that sinned:
- In what way did those angels sin? What was the nature of their sin?
- Is this sin described in any other passage of the Scriptures?
- Did this sin occur in heaven or on earth?
- From whence were they cast down to hell and reserved for judgment?
- Is Jude 6 related to this event?
- Is Gen 6:1-8 related to 2Pet 2:4-5?

3. Are the events in verses 4 and 5 related - i.e. the angels that sinned and the destruction of the old world of Noah?
- What was the initial cause of the destruction of the old world?
- Were the angels involved in Gen 6:1-8?

4. Jude 6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
- What was the sin of these angels mentioned here?
- What was the first estate of these angels?
- What was their own habitation?
- How did they leave their first estate and own habitation?
- Why was their leaving their first estate so serious?
- When did that happen?
- Is their transgression recorded anywhere else in the Scriptures?
- Were all the fallen angels involved?

If you can stick to the subject, your comments are welcome.

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Comments

Johnny
I've never thought of them (Noah's time and people other than family, and angels), but I will say this. The angels that "sinned" committed the same "sin" as Adam (and Eve). Wanting to be God. That was the only restriction God gave his first humans, and perhaps the only one given to the spirits other than the God=head, that have been revealed in the Word. Is Lucifer (Satan) attempted coup or rebellion, and his followers (other angels), the sin mentioned in your scripture? I don't know if that is a bible story, or from scripture, but is the basis of the entire theology of good and evil, I'd say. Looks like your later scriptures confirm the existence of that spiritual battle.

Sing F Lau
Johnny Davis, @ I've never thought of them (Noah's time and people other than family, and angels)
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Then at least give it some careful thought first before blah blah blah! <LOL>

You haven't even thought of the nature of the angels' sin, but you are ready to equate it with Adam's sin!

Why don't you give the matter some study first!

If only you actually attempt to answer my questions, you would probably be lead to the truth of the matter!

My questions are meant to aid folks to think, and to lead them to see the teaching of Scriptures!

Johnny
@Sing. I'm interested in the reasons behind your criticisms of folks that respond to your questions. Your inquiries are among the best of my FB friends, that pose them TO HAVE thinking people, rather than those who have been brainwashed into a pattern of belief, respond. Yet, when a thinking, perhaps provocative answer comes your way, you pass it off as dribble, or in this case, not attempting to answer the question (when in fact, I DID answer the question). I do not that scripture says to help mankind, because we may be helping angels, and that when we help mankind, we are doing it for Jesus. And you are quite intelligent, I'll give you that - but a mind reader? I have thought about, and described, the entire meaning of life, as I see it. That is not a knee-jerk answer, but a response that comes from prayer and thinking, and study of scriptures over many years. I do not resent in any way your comments to my comments to your questions, but I am beginning to sin perhaps, in being suspicious of your intent. I am not seeking a good grade in school, or any self admiration or pride in knowledge, and your criticism, if for good intentions (westerners call it "constructive crimicism"), are for learning of BOTH. I will never STOP learning, and seeking truth. That is an attitude, evidently not shared by anyone esle, as I see no other comments, to your well-written and time absorbing narrative and questions. And to the intent from your part, God has told me that is it a cultural difference, in wording and understanding. I'll go with that. Please continue your inquiries. I'll respond as best I can.

Sing F Lau
The reasons behind my criticisms of folks that respond to my questions: simple answer: PROVOKE them to think further... when they give flippant answers.

The Lord gives his people a sound mind... too many waste it away... yes, washed down the religious water closets!

Time to provoke them to think again! That's all I'm at... very transparent!

Thank you for your comments...

Johnny
That's a good thing, Sing. One of the modern translations, in English, used that very term, provoke, in going towards good works, if I'm not mistaken. I'd vouch for your good heart to anyone. Shuck, you may be one of those angels, we are to attend to. Maybe Noah, as well.

Are you saved by grace? Really?

 

Did you say that your salvation is by grace?
Just what do you mean by that?

How and when did God save you?

Have you believed the gospel of your salvation, or have you been deceived by some horrid lies?

Many LIARS teach that it is when you hear their preaching and decide to heed their call to believe in Jesus!

That is VERY BAD NEWS - if God has to wait for someone to preach the gospel to you and you need to hear, and to believe in order for Him to save you, you will never be saved! By nature, it is absolutely impossible!

The Scriptures say these about you:
- when you WERE without strength, i.e. IMPOTENT to believe! Rom 5:6.
- when you WERE ungodly, CONTRARY to God's will! Rom 4:5.
- while you WERE yet sinners, i.e. in the STATE of sin and death! Eph 2:1,5
- when you WERE enemies, i.e. WARRING against God! Rom 5:10, 8:7.

When you were still in such a pathetic, miserable helpless condition:
- Christ DIED for you, the ungodly! He didn't wait till you believe!
- God COMMENDED His love towards you! He didn't wait till you believe! - Christ JUSTIFIED you by His blood! He didn't wait till you believe!
- Christ SAVED you from the wrath to come! He didn't wait till you believe!
- Christ RECONCILED you to God by His death in your stead (when you have no real existence yet, except in the mind of God, and yours names were already in the Book of Life! )

Romans 5:
6 ¶ For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Ephesians 2 KJV
1 ¶And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins...
4 ¶But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)...
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

By grace ye are saved; WHEN are ye saved by grace?
When ye were YET DEAD IN SINS.

Do you read that?
Do you see a wee bit better now?

When ye were yet DEAD in trespasses and sins, were you capable of faith? 
Yes, or No?  Read John 3:3,5.

Then through WHOSE FAITH are ye saved by grace?
Are you thinking yet? 

What can you do to be saved WHEN you were dead in trespasses and sins? 

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Here is an exposition on Ephesians 2:8-9. 
Take a close look. May the Lord bless you to see the truth. Amen. 

https://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2008/01/saved-by-grace-through-faith-whose.html

 

"And he must needs go through Samaria." John 4:4

"And he must needs go through Samaria."

The detailed account of the encounter with the Samaritan woman (John 4:1-42) provides many precious lessons. I learned a few.

John 4:4 "And he must needs go through Samaria."
- Why? Because He has precious sheep there.

"By chance", the Lord met a lost sheep, a woman of ill repute.

John 4:18 "For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly."

Why did she come to the well at noon, of all the hours of the day?
To avoid meeting others? Why?
But her Saviour was there to apprehend her!

John 4:25-26 "The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he."

She left the scene when the disciples returned and to tell the others the incredible encounter she had with Jesus.

John 4:41-42 "And many more believed because of his own word; And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world."

Through this Samaritan woman, many more besides herself believed that Jesus is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world, i.e. of both the Jews as well as the Gentiles and those in between, like the Samaritans!

I was reminded of these two lessons:
(i) The Lord has His sheep among the base and despised!
- Remember this: He came to save sinners, did He not?

(ii) The Lord could use EVEN such to bear witness, and to glorify Him!

Surely He could use a village bumpkin like me too. Amen.

1Corinthians 1 - KJT
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

Amen and amen. 

The Twin Daughters of Gospel Regeneration

The filter before cleaning 

The filter after cleaning 

Clean the filter in your head regularly,
or else your mental vision becomes impaired.

April 16, 2011
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Mighty Mollow* (an Adjunct Professor) wrote,
My dear brother, did you listen to Paul's message? 
He does not advocate "decisional" regeneration... or did you miss the part about God opening Lydia's heart?  Sing, you will stand before God and answer for misrepresenting your brothers in Christ.

Sing
Dear Mighty Mollow,
This is what I wrote: "Decisional evangelism and decisional regeneration are twin daughters of gospel regeneration.
Another new school fullerite reviving a new path!"

No, I didn't say Paul Washer advocates decisional regeneration. I did say that "Decisional evangelism and decisional regeneration are twin daughters" of the gospel regenerationists. If you have a problem with my statement, it is your honour to explain the error of that statement.

I believe Paul Washer is a gospel regenerationist just like all the modern new school baptists - Fullerites. If I misrepresent him, I can repent now. So please prove that I have indeed misrepresented you and your friends.

We both will stand before God side by side...
- You for your crime of misrepresenting those you label as 'hyper-C' as ANTI-mean, while they are not.
- I for my crime of rightly calling you a gospel regenerationist, as well as your buddy Paul Washer!  <LOL>

Please bear in mind that God opening Lydia's heart to understand the gospel truth IS NOT THE SAME as God regenerating a Lydia dead in trespasses and sins.

REGENERATING someone dead in trespasses and sins and ENLIGHTENING someone already quickened/regenerated are very different.

A biblical distinction is the essence of sound theology

Before the gospel came to Lydia through Paul, she was already a God-fearing woman worshipping God. READ the passage and see what it says... don't just make it say what you imagined. May be to you, someone still dead in trespasses and sins is able to fear God and worship Him and pray to Him!

A biblical distinction is the essence of sound theology!
But wooliness is the mother of all confusion.

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*not his real name!