[30/11/2025 13:55]
Sunny
Exodus 32
30 And it came to
pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great
sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement
for your sin.
31 And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said,
Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.
32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin—; and
if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.
Pastor Lau.
Please help me to understand the bold words
blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. I have checked
the BLB tools for cross-reference and referred to the Lamb's Book of Life
Questions:
1. Is the book the Lamb's book of life?
2. Moses, as prophet of Jehovah God, stated
clearly in v 33, He will blot him out of the book.
Exo 32:33
And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath
sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
However, we learned in time past on 1 Cor 10: 1-6 referring to these generations of Jews nevertheless were God's elect but those above 20 years old were not permitted into the promised land. They were given eternal salvation but not temporal.
Question:
1. How can I reconcile Exo 32: 30 ff &
1 Cor 10: 1- 6? Blotting out the names in the Lamb's book of Life in Exodus 32
ff & 1 Cor 10
Thank you
[30/11/2025 14:24]
Sunny
Also, the
preacher this morning preached on Romans 9: 18-24 on the subject of vessels of
honour & vessels of dishonour, or wrath, pleading with the listeners to repent
& plead for mercy to GOD that He would break down the vessels of wrath to
rebuild into vessels of honor.
Q. 1) if some are already made into vessels
of dishonor, will GOD change the status of wrath to vessels of honor?
[02/12/2025 00:09]
Sing in reply to Sister Sunny
Thank you for the questions.
Q1. Is the book the Lamb's book of life?
Let us answer this question by reminding ourselves some established truths concerning the Lamb’s Book of Life.
Q. Whose Book of Life is it?
A. It is the Lamb’s Book of Life, and it is
the only entrance into heaven (Rev 21:27)
Q. What is in the Book of Life?
A. The personal names of each of God’s elect
(Luke 10:20; Phil 4:3).
Q. When were tho names written in the Book of
Life?
A. The
names were written there from the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4; Rev 13:8;
17:8).
Q. Who can open the Book of Life?
A. Revelation 5:2-5, only Christ, the Lion of
the tribe of Judah, could do so.
Q. Can any names be blotted out?
a. Absolutely not! Christ said He would lose none of those chosen by His Father (John 6:39; 17:2). None shall end up in the lake of fire. Rev 20:15. God’s eternal purpose of redemption is immutable
Q. What are the blessings of having names
written in the Book of Life?
- Deliverance from sin and condemnation of
the eternal lake of fire. Rev 20:11-15).
- Eternal glory in the presence of God.
In light of the above, the book mentioned in
Ex 32:32,33 can’t possibly be the same as the Book of Life.
- Names can be blotted out from the book
mentioned in v32-33.
- Moses words “blot me, I pray thee, out of
thy book which thou hast written” indicated that;
- the LORD’s word also confirmed that,
“Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.”
If the book mentioned is not the Book of
Life, then what book is it?
I believe verse 34 gives us a clear
indication.
“Therefore now go, lead the people unto the
place of which I have spoken unto thee: behold, mine Angel, shall go before
thee: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them.”
Try connecting “Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book” with “nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them.” When the LORD visits their sin upon them, the LORD will slay them in the wilderness, THUS excluding them from entering the Promised Land, THAT IS, blotting them out of the so-called Book of the Promised Land.
[02/12/2025 00:15]
Sing
Question: 1. How can I reconcile Exo 32: 30 ff &
1 Cor 10: 1- 6? Blotting out the names in the Lamb's book of Life in Exodus 32
ff & 1 Cor 10
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Since Exodus 32:31-34 does not speak of the Lamb's Book of Life, no contradiction requires reconciliation.
Sing
Question 2. Moses, as the
prophet of Jehovah GOD, stated clearly in v 33, He will blot him out of the
book.
Exo 32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath
sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
——————————
Moses did offer himself to be blotted out of the book the LORD has written in his wrestling with the LORD for the forgiveness of the people he was leading to the promised land.
"Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin—; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written."
But the LORD firmly rebutted him with,
"Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book."
[02/12/2025 00:37]
Sing
"However, we
learned in time past on 1 Cor 10: 1-6, referring to these generations of Jews, nevertheless, were God's elect, but those above 20 years old were not permitted
into the promised land. They were given eternal salvation but not temporal.
=========
Exodus 32:31-34 is related to the sin of the
golden calf by Aaron; it's not related to those above 20 years old who were not
permitted to enter the promised land. The murmurings and unbelief concerning
the good report by Joshua and Caleb concerning the good land excluded those 20
years old and above from entering the promised land.
Num 14:29
Your carcasses shall fall in this wilderness;
and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty
years old and upward, which have murmured against me,
In BOTH contexts, "whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book" was fulfilled; their carcasses fell in the wilderness; they didn't enjoy the temporal salvation of the promised land.
[02/12/2025 12:47]
Sing
Question: 1. How can I reconcile on Exo 32: 30 ff &
1 Cor 10: 1-6. Blotting out the names in the Lamb's book of Life in Exodus 32
ff & 1 Cor 10
======
A few words on 1Cor 10:1-6.
1 ¶Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye
should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all
passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the
cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink:
for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was
Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well
pleased: for they were overthrown in
the wilderness.
6 ¶Now these things were our examples, to the
intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
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Apostle Paul was warning the Corinthians
SAINTS against their sins with the parallel example of that generation of Jews
who were delivered from Egypt.
When giving examples, make sure the principles involved are the same.
Note carefully Apostle Paul speaks of "all OUR father" when addressing the Gentiles Corinthian saints. Therefore, Apostle Paul is referring to God's children among the Jews only; not all ethnic Jews are God's children. Ethnic Jews are not in any way the father of the Gentile Corinthian saints in any sense; the believing Jews are our fathers in the spiritual sense only.
Note also the wonderful spiritual blessings experienced by "all our fathers" spoken of - "...spirit meat (food)... spiritual drink... spiritual Rock..."
Even so the Corinthian saints. They too may
be OVERTHROWN if they behave like our fathers in the days of Moses.
Despite experiencing all those spiritual blessings, many of them " were OVERTHROWN in the wilderness."
6 ¶Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
I hope this helps.
I commend Sister Sunny for remembering
1Cor 10:1-6 in connection with Exo 32:31-34. ❤️
[02/12/2025 22:26]
Sing Lau in reply to Sister Sunny
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Apostle Paul's illustration of the potter serves one singular purpose - the absolute sovereignty of God in His providential dealing.
The examples given:
- God's sovereign choice of Isaac over
Ishmael;
- God's sovereign choice of Jacob over Esau;
- God's sovereign choice of raising up
Pharaoh to great honour; and in equal sovereignty, only to appoint him to great
dishonour/ wrath for His own glory.
In Romans 9-11, Apostle Paul explains to the Gentile believers in Rome WHY many of God's children among the Jews were unbelieving.
Romans 10
2 For I bear them record that they have a
zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's
righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not
submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for
righteousness to every one that believeth.
V2- "a zeal OF God": the genitive indicates the source/origin of that zeal. Only God's children possess the zeal that is from God. Those Jews had a zeal OF God BUT were unbelieving.
Why? Romans 12:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
The way the preacher uses the potter does not suit the purpose of the illustration by Apostle Paul - the sovereignty of the potter. that is, potter is free, from the same lump of clay, to make an exquisite vessel to keep treasures as well as a urine pot. The potter is "sovereign" in what to make out of the same lump of clay.
Even so, God in His providential dealing with us.
Once the vessels are made and dried, they are baked in the kiln, causing the clay particles to bond together in a process called vitrification. That which is vitrified can't be used to remake anymore.
Breaking the vessels of dishonour to rebuild them into vessel of honour is fictional; it betrays ignorance of pottery making.
That vessels of dishonour can plead to be remade into vessels of honour is also fictional .. and repudiate grace.
Breaking pots in the Scriptures is always a metaphor of judgement, not remaking.
Psalm 2
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron;
thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Isaiah 30
14 And he shall break it as the breaking of
the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there
shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth,
or to take water withal out of the pit.
