Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Saturday, November 14, 2026

What are "ALL THINGS" that work together for good - Romans 8:28


Romans 8:28: "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to his purpose."

There are many verses in the Bible that may be considered favourites.  One among those many would certainly be Romans 8:28:  "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."  As a long-time member of the Primitive Baptists, I have heard this verse referred to a countless number of times. I have heard sermons about it, I have read articles about it, and I have heard numerous discussions about this verse.  This passage, as well as all of the other Scriptures, will never be exhausted. 

I believe that there are limitations that must be placed upon the teaching of this verse. For example, think of the phrase "to them that love God".  Ask yourself the question, "Does everyone love God?"  When you answer that question, I believe that you will have set a limitation on the teaching of this verse (unless you believe that everyone does love God).  Even if you believe that "everyone does love God", there will yet be other indications of the necessity of limiting the meaning of this verse.Is

Next, consider the phrase "all things work together for good". Break the phrase down a little further and concentrate on the word "together". Then raise a question of this fashion: "Is it possible that some things work contrary rather than together?" Or further,  "Do the devil and God work together as partners?" Mainly, I am trying to bring out the thought that there are limitations that must be placed on the phrase "all things work together for good". 

Let us consider for a moment some verses from Galatians 5:19-21: “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”

There are seventeen things named here (plus the indefinite phrase "such like") that I do not believe are among the "all things" that work together for the benefit of those that love God. 

Personally, I believe that the "all things" of verse 28 are described in the 5 words involving foreknowledge, predestination, calling, justification, and glorification that are discussed in verses 29 and 30.. This idea is beautifully summarized in verse 31 when the question is asked, "What shall we say to these (all of them)things?"  I will say that all these things (all 5 of them) will definitely "work together for good to them that love God".

Furthermore, I believe that God has control over other things that are mentioned in the later verses of this chapter (He also has control, universally, over all things even over those things that do not work together).  Those things mentioned from verse 35 to the end of the chapter are under the control of God. In these things that God may allow, suffer, permit,or order, God still maintains His control over all of them. Though these things are NOT working together for good (in some instances they are working for harm), YET God will not allow ANY of these things to separate His beloved from Him.

These are some of my views on this passage of Scripture.  Please share with me your views on this rich and wonderful passage of Scripture.

Your little brother,
Gene Thomas


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THINGS THAT DO NOT WORK FOR GOOD
For the subject I wish to write about, I will quote Rom 8:28: "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to his purpose." What does the apostle mean by saying "all things?" Does he mean to include sin as well as holiness? Some seem to think that he did, but by investigating this subject I find a vast difference between sin and holiness; that there is no agreement between them; that they do not work together; therefore I conclude that the apostle did not include sin in this declaration, since it cannot work together with righteousness and holiness, but works in an opposite direction and there can be no agreement between them. They are just as opposite as light and darkness. And to show what sin does work, the apostle says, "Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; but glory, honor, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile." This shows a contrast of the two principles, and shows how they work; it shows that instead of working together, they work just the opposite; that there is no agreement between them, and they cannot work together. 

Then in the eighth chapter and following the verse I first quoted are shown some of the things that work together for good: "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover, whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?" I think these scriptures show that sin was not considered with the "all things" in the twenty-eighth verse of the eighth chapter. This apostle had no reference to sin working for our good, for the reason that sin does not work good, but evil - works unto death; it works death in them that follow after it. "For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death." Rom. vi, 20, 21. I fail to see how two opposites can work together, and for good at that; therefore I conclude that Paul did not consider sin among the all things. In this text righteousness and holiness are so manifestly opposite to sin that they cannot be joined together in any work for good. Holiness is from the Lord, but sin came by man, therefore cannot work the righteousness of God. All our holiness must be from the Lord, for none of our own will do. "But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord;" Rom. vi, 22,23. This shows that if sin reigns in us, the end thereof is death, but if we have become servants to God, then we have our fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

The carnal mind is enmity against God; not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Therefore, man in a state of nature cannot serve God. He is dead in sin, cannot see the kingdom of God - must be born again before he can see the kingdom of God. Man cannot serve God with the carnal mind, but must have the mind of Christ. Therefore Paul could say, "I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh (the carnal mind) the law of sin." It is very evident that the carnal mind is not changed in regeneration, for this reason Paul preaches the warfare, and this warfare Paul sets for the two opposites, good and evil, in the one person, and they are contrary one to the other - work in opposition. This is another reason why I conclude that Paul was not including sin with the other things that work together for good. 

"Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity! It is like precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments; as the dew of Hermon, and the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life forevermore." When men with corrupt minds get into the church of Christ, get to be leaders, they stir up strife and division among them, and seek to draw away disciples after them. This comes of sin, and I do not see how it could work together for good to God's people, but instead would work evil and therefore cannot be considered among the all things spoken of by Paul. He was speaking of things that work together, and if that is a proper conclusion, sin could not be meant, because sin and righteousness do not work together. 

Now in conclusion, I will say, I like the MONITOR very much, and enjoy reading the many good letters and editorials published in its pages, and would not like to do without it.

Your unworthy brother, if one at all,
J. W. Skaggs.


"As many as were ordained to eternal life believed" - CONTEXT



Act 13:48
"And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed."

This passage speaks specifically of the Gentiles who heard the word of God through Apostle Paul - as many among them as were ordained to eternal life believed.

When "as many as were ordained to eternal life believed" is not rightly divided IN ITS CONTEXT and taken as a universal statement, one ends with a grievous error.

IT IS SIMPLY NOT true that as many as were ordained to eternal life will believe. There are many among those ordained unto eternal life who are incapable of believing - either they don't have the mental capacity, or they don't have the opportunity to hear the gospel.

But many are convinced, based on Acts 13:48, that every one ordained to eternal life will hear and believe the gospel; those who don't hear and believe cannot be saved. And they still claim that salvation is by grace alone.

But as many as were ordained to eternal life shall, at God's own appointed and approved time, be effectually called out of their native state of condemnation, death and alienation to that of justification, regeneration and adoption in Jesus Christ. By this effectual calling, by God's free grace, an elect is made completely fit for eternal glory. Amen. 

Friday, November 13, 2026

"But I would not have you to be ignorant..."

"But I would not have you to be ignorant..."

Again and again, and yet again the Apostles wrote to believers these words, "But I would not have you to be ignorant..." I don't know whether they felt insulted by such reminders from the Apostles. One stated task of the Apostles was to dispel ignorance from God's children.

But for a smart aleck who would not be taught, Apostle Paul said, "But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant."

John the Baptist's ministry is described thus:
76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,
79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

- To give knowledge of salvation unto His people...
- To give light to them that sit in darkness...
- To give light to them that in the shadow of death...
- To guide our feet into the way of peace...

"Them that sit in the shadow of death is NOT the same as them that are in the state of death!

One can only give knowledge to God's redeemed people... those that are spiritually alive! "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

One can only give light to those that are alive but are in the darkness of ignorance... ignorance that can cause them destruction in this life.

Whoever is sent to guide the feet of the dead into the way of peace? John was sent to guide the feet of God's people into the way of peace.

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Jerry Chapin
"How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace: that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that sayeth unto Zion, Thy God reigneth."

Rightly Dividing The Word of Truth

A shepherd is leading his flock of sheep and goats
crossing the road. July 08, 2021) 

#RightlyDividingTheWordOfTruth

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

These words of the Lord Jesus Christ below are precious when rightly understood; His gracious and sovereign bestowal of eternal life is certain and immutable. When sincere folks twist them, they not only contradict the other part of the Scriptures, but they also confound sonship and discipleship, to the injury of many of God's children.

John 10 - KJT
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

These words were quoted by a sincere man to teach that all of Christ's redeemed are obedient disciples; they hear the voice of Christ and they follow Christ in obedience. He understands these words to teach that Christ has no disobedient disciples. He makes these words to teach the practical and temporal aspects of salvation even though he claims to understand the distinction between eternal salvation and temporal salvation. He is probably attempting to refute the idea that the goats in Mt 25:32 are speaking of God's disobedient children.

These three verses are obviously speaking of the eternal aspect of salvation:

1. The voice of Christ in v. 27 is the life-giving voice of the Life-giver addressed to the dead in trespasses and sins; as a result of this divine, effectual life-giving voice, all without exception are quickened with eternal life; they follow him, not in the sense of practical obedience but in the sense of being united with him, always with Him; all without exception are firmly in His hand; they follow Him and are with Him.

- If understood in the practical sense, it contradicts so many other parts of the Scriptures; just look at the parable of the four types of grounds.

- It's through the sound of the gospel ministry that Christ's redeemed people are taught and called to practical obedience, "teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Mt 28:20.

- Others twist these verses to teach that those without eternal life, i.e. dead in trespasses and sin, can hear the voice of Christ and fellow Him, THEN they are given eternal life by Him.

2. This is further elaborated in v28 as,
"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."

- Christ's life-giving voice brought eternal life to those dead in trespasses and sin; this bestowal of that eternal life is steadfast and immutable; nothing can undo that divine bestowal of eternal life.

3. The steadfastness and immutability of that bestowal of eternal life by the voice of Jesus Christ are repeated and emphasized again in v29, "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand."

The Scriptures abound with passages that speak of the disobedience of God's redeemed people; these are just dismissed, "they can't be Christ's sheep." Why? "Because Christ has no disobedient sheep; His sheep hear His voice and follow Him."


How say ye to my soul...?

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 How say ye to my soul...?

The Brother who introduced the first service yesterday read and exhorted the little church from the eleventh Psalm.

David's disgust at the preposterous suggestion stirred my heart...

Psalm 11
1 In the LORD put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
2 For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.

There is an intense disgust and indignation in David's words, "How say ye to my soul" against the impudent suggestion, "Flee as a bird to your mountain."

How is the mountain even comparable to the LORD as a refuge? Evil is your insolent insinuation.

Deuteronomy 33:27 KJT — The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.

2 Samuel 22:3 KJT — The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence.

Psalm 46:1 KJ — God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

Psalm 91:2 KJT — I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

Psalm 94:22 KJT — But the LORD is my defence; and my God is the rock of my refuge.

Why picture me as a panicking little bird? All the more I need to find refuge in the house of the Lord!

Psalm 84 KJT
2 My soul longeth, yea, even fainteth for the courts of the LORD: my heart and my flesh crieth out for the living God.
3 Yea, the sparrow hath found an house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, even thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God.

May our hearts be filled with holy disgust and indignation when foolish and evil opinions are set before us.

In the LORD, we trust. May the LORD keep us trusting in Him. Amen..