Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Monday, March 2, 2026

Let them be, they are different!

 

Let them be, they are different!

For all you Rick Warren fans out there:

Pastor Rick Warren Says Allah and Jehovah God Are One and the Same!

Chrislamity - a new religion promoted by Sick Barren of Donkeyass Stable

Central to Christianity are:

- The Trinity of the Godhead.

- Christ, the only begotten Son of God, the eternal Word made flesh

- Christ is the only substitute and Saviour for His people

- Imputation of Christ's righteousness

Islam rejects and anathematises all the above, i.e. Trinity in Unity, Incarnation, Substitution, and Imputation.

Let's just acknowledge that Islam and Christianity are distinct, with an unbridgeable gulf between them. The two are fundamentally different. Let them be. There is no need to pretend and lie. To do so is devilish deception.

Ac 20:29 "For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock."

http://godfatherpolitics.com/.../pastor-rick-warren.../...

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 John Feroze

Pastor Rick needs to teach more about the real Doctrine of Grace. thanks for informing us

Sing F Lau
I do understand that before Islam came into being, the Arab believers refer to Jehovah as Allah.

That doesn't make the Allah of Islam the same as Jehovah, the God of Abraham, the Father of the man Jesus - the eternal Word made flesh.

Sing F Lau
'The god of the muslims was the same god of abraham... that's history.'
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No, that's just her-story! <LOL>
Fable!

Equivocation is a dreaded disease, a plague to flee from!

Sing F Lau
In your fascination with technicality, you end up with obvious irrationality!

First, you said, "Jehovah is or the Judeo-Christian God is in fact also Allah...... the god of the muslims was the same god of Abraham"

Then, "now is it the same God?? obviously not." (I assume the pronoun 'it' refers to 'god of the muslims'.

If technically he didn't stop being the same God, then did he in some ways did stop being the same God?

So, the muslims do worship the same God of the Bible, only that they didn't worship him in spirit and truth?

Sing F Lau
@ If you are going to make that claim then you must also make the claim that the Jewish God Jehovah also is not the same God as the christian God....simply because the Jewish people have failed to believe in Christ.
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Why must I also make the claim that the Jewish God Jehovah also is not the same God as the Christ God? Your answer: simply because the Jewish people have failed to believe in Christ.

But how does the Jews' failure to believe Christ necessarily make me claim that the Jewish God Jehovah also is not the same God as the Christian God???

You are equating the Jews who believe in the Jehovah God and His promised Messiah with the Muslims who worship their Allah without any hope of any Messiah!

Sing F Lau
@ Since the Jews and arabs consider themselves to worship the same God..
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Now you are equating arabs as muslims.

Do they worship the same God because they are enabled by the same Spirit?

And if they they do, why is Jesus the Son of God accursed to them?

No, you are hung up on a 1433 year technicality!

Sing F Lau
It is quite amusing, actually. I live in an increasing militant muslim country.
Arab defines ethnicity, and muslim religion!
In Malaysia, ethnicity and religion are EQUATED... by law!

For example, if a Chinese converts to Islam and become a Muslim, he must also become a Malay. He must take a Malay name, he must dress like a Malay, and he must speak Malay, etc. And if one is born a Malay, he is a Muslim by law... and if he ever converts out of Islam to whatever religion he chooses, he is subject to the law of apostasy!

Similarly, the Muslims EQUATE westerners (so-called 'white' people) as Christians!

Sing F Lau
So many westerners are so suckered by the Saudis and the like ... the turks have infiltrated their universities and even their black house, and they have Sick Barren (Rick Warren!) goading them on... ya Christians will soon be required to worship Allah... no problem at all... after all already conditioned that they are worshiping the same God! Allah bless America!

Sing F Lau
What you considered facts are:
- "Jehovah is or the Judeo Christian God is in fact also Allah... - "the god of the muslims was the same god of abraham...thats history."
- "They may be a cursed nation for changing the truth of God....but they didn't change Gods at any point in history."

Some superficial resemblances are equated as being the same! Man has two legs, chicken has two legs; therefore man is chicken and chicken is man <LOL>

No, they didn't change god at any point in history. But they did start worshiping Allah, distinct from the Jehovah God, at a certain point in history! He was not known nor worshiped prior to that.

Whoever said they are cursed people? How can a people who don't even have the truth be charged for changing the truth? OT Israel was most certainly cursed and destroyed for good - it possessed the truth of God but perverted it. USA is more likely going to be a cursed nation... for changing the truth of God!!!

Sing F Lau
Many insist that the Jehovah God revealed in the Bible is the same as the Allah of the Koran. He revealed Himself very differently in the Bible and the Koran.... or that His followers perceive the same God very differently! And by extension all men worship the same God, all religions are just different route to the same God... all roads lead to Rome! <LOL>

Sing F Lau
(Some folks have quietly deleted all their comments... so the exchanges above appear like a monologue. But why would people delete comments that express their beliefs???)
Shame on them.

Buddy TP
Amen bro Lau. Islam is not Christianity. God's covenant was confirmed in Isaac (Rebecca though a Syrian). Arabian Islam with Keturah and Egyptian Islam with Hagar (Ismael).-Gen.25

Peter Petersen
The fact that this al Ilah does not have a Son is enough for me, thank you very much.