Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMlv21zGARM
𝗪𝗛𝗔𝗧 𝗜𝗦 𝗦𝗔𝗟𝗩𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡?
In two minutes, Paul Washer says what repentance is
and what is salvation?
Nothing is more important than having this correct.
Your eternity depends upon it.
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(If your eternity depends on getting something correct,
then your eternity is conditioned on getting something correct?
BUT spiritual things are spiritually discerned.
ONLY those whom God HAS FREELY bestowed eternal salvation
are capable of discerning spiritual things,
and getting those spiritual things correct.
Isn't this elementary!!!
It's foolish to put the cart before the horse.
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#typicalsynergist
#typicalRBs
Mr Paul Washer is a
popular Reformed Baptist preacher, highly revered by his Calvinistic followers.
His message in the
video clip is a typical repudiation of salvation by grace alone. It's a popular
fable peddled as a gospel truth.
The salvation he
preaches is NO LONGER by grace, NOR by grace ALONE.
Repentance is a
fruit of the salvation ALREADY freely bestowed; it's not a condition of
salvation.
Eph 2
1 ¶And you hath he
quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins...
5 Even when we were
dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
We were saved by
God, freely by His grace, i.e. WITHOUT us doing anything or meeting any condition;
when we were dead in trespasses and sins, we were incapable of faith or
repentance.
Salvation by God's free grace
and salvation through man's repentance and faith are two distinct salvations:
- the former is
eternal salvation from the lake of fire based solely on the redemptive work of
Christ; the latter is temporal salvation from lies, falsehood, ungodliness,
unrighteousness, etc. in this life.
- the former is
monergistic, based solely upon the free and sovereign activities of the Triune
God; the latter is synergistic, through the obedience of those already saved by
grace to the Father's will.
The salvation
accomplished by Christ and freely applied to you (i.e. by grace!) personally when you were dead in
trespasses and sins is DISTINCT from the salvation you must work out for
yourself with fear and trembling, through your obedience to the Father's will.
- The former is
eternal salvation freely by grace alone, A.L.O.N.E.
- The latter is
temporal salvation through your obedience to the Father's will.
- The former makes
the latter possible.
A simple
illustration:
The life you
received from your parents and the life you must labour to get for yourself are
two distinct lives.
- The former
concerns your BEING, you were brought into being; the latter concerns your
WELLBEING.
- The former was by
the " monergistic" activities of your parents; the latter involves
your "synergistic" obedience to your parents.
If you still don't
understand, ask.
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Comments
Ruth Delmar
Paul Washer affirms
the doctrine of grace, and it is essentially monergistic, so your claim is wrong.
The preaching is a clip of him preaching to repent. Preaching to repent does
not make it synergistic. John the Baptist and Jesus Himself preached about
repentance. We do not know who God’s elect are, so that’s why we preach.
Sing F Lau
Ruth, he clearly conditions salvation upon man's act of repentance, thus repudiating
salvation by grace ALONE.
So many, even the Arminians, boast salvation by grace, but in the next breath, they condition salvation by grace through some activities of man!
Lahry
Sing F Lau kind sir,
I'm trying to get a grip on your position. Am I understanding you to say that
your position is that when YAHSHUA died HE died for all men saving all of
mankind? Or am I missing something?
Sing F Lau
Lahry, God elected a people
and gave them to Christ to redeem; Christ came to redeem the same exact people,
not one more and not one less.
John 6:39 KJT — And
this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given
me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 17:2 KJT — As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
Lahry
Thank you.
Sing F Lau
Lahry, What's
your understanding of the matter?
Lahry
I really do not
think it would be fruitful to respond, sir. All HIS best to you.