Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Wednesday, September 23, 2026

Hell and the Lake of Fire Confounded

 

Rev 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

The Scriptures declare the lake of fire but Paul Washer replaces with hell as though they are synnymous.

Mr. Washer fails to distinguish hell from the lake of fire, like multitudes of others.

Hell is ONLY for the intermediate state after death.

The lake of fire is the eternal state after the general resurrection.

Hell is everlasting; it lasts as long as time lasts.

Hell shall be emptied at the end of time.

That which is everlasting lasts to the end of time.

The lake of fire is eternal.

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Rev 20
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

i. Christ Jesus holds both the keys of hell and of death.
Revelation 1:18 KJV — I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

ii. At the end of time, both death (that holds the bodies of the dead) and hell (that holds the spirits of the dead) shall surrender up all its captives to Him who holds the keys of hell and of death.
- Hell shall be EMPTY,  with no one remaining in it any more. That shall be the end of the purpose and relevance of hell, and death too.
- BOTH death and hell shall be cast Into the lake of fire; they will NEVER trouble God's redeemed ever again.
- The second death is the death of both death and hell.

iii. Death [holding the bodies] and hell [holding the spirits] shall deliver up their captives for the general resurrection and judgement.

- those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life shall be ushered into their eternal inheritance in heaven; those whose names are not written in the book of life, THAT IS, NOT REDEEMED BY CHRIST, shall be cast into the lake of fire.

- YES, there are those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life who ended up in hell BUT such shall not end up in the lake of fire. They shall be surrendered up to Christ and be resurrected to glory. (Read all those solemn warnings by Christ on hell addressed to the disciples: hell can be avoided by taking drastic measures in dealing with sins.
- A man's place in the lake of fire is determined SOLELY by whether his name is written in the Lamb's book of life.

iv. The spirits of the righteous in paradise (distinct from heaven) shall come with Christ at His coming and be united with their resurrected bodies.

Just my minority non-conformist view.
You can have yours.

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Roger
Amen

Ann
So, Brother Sing, are you saying that Hell will be the temporary punishment of the elect who never submit their lives to Christ while living here or may be lapsed Christians? Who then will be taken up to glory with Christ at the end of time?

Sing F Lau
Ann: Hell is the intermediate state, thus temporary, between death and resurrection.

In the intermediate state, God's children are either in paradise or in hell; in the eternal state, ALL God children shall be in heaven; those whose names were not written in the book of life, unredeemed, shall be cast into the lake of fire.

Ann
Sing, That's what I got from your post but you also said "hell can be avoided by taking drastic measures in dealing with sins."

Do you mean to say it is like punishment or judgment for sin, that will be conquered upon our final resurrection when those whose names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life (the elect?) are made perfect in eternity with Christ?

Sing
The punishment or judgement for sin - the wages of which is eternal damnation in the lake of fire - has been fully paid by Christ; He saved His people from the lake of fire by His works of redemption.

The temporal hell, the realm of the spirits of the dead during the intermediate state, is not so much punishment/judgement for sin; it's more correctional/chastening.

These words are addressed to God's children.
Hebrews 12
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

For many, the chastening continues beyond death.

Hebrews 10:31 KJV — It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Just my understanding.

Christ solemnly warned His disciples to take drastic measures to avoid hell.

Matthew 5
¶ And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:
And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mark 9
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Why did the Lord so solemnly repeated the warning of hell to His disciples if there is no possibility hell for His OWN disciples. Some think the Lord Jesus Christ is joking or wasting words.