November 10, 2017
#The_angels_that_sinned...
2Pet
2:
4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and
delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of
righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly.
Jude
6
"And
the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he
hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the
great day."
Please
assist me in rightly dividing these two passages.
I assume
that these two passages are intimately related; both deal with the specific
angels that sinned in the manner stated and their judgment; the first passage
states the angels that sinned; the second describes the nature of the sin
committed by those angels involved.
To
facilitate some study, let me ask some questions. Please feel free to ask your
own. Please answer these questions that are specifically related to the two
passages of the Scriptures.
But
first, a few things to take note of to save us from saying ideas that are
self-evidently wrong.
1.
Satan and his angels that were cast out of heaven to the earth (Rev 12:9) are
different from these angels that were "cast down to hell... reserved in
everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great
day." 2Pet 2:4, Jude 6. The two are
distinct events - that's basic. Tooooo many flippantly confound the two!
2.
Angels that were cast out of heaven, and angels not keeping their first estate but
left their own habitation are different. The former is the result of rebellion;
the latter is a failure to remain in their appointed estate, their own
habitation, the sin of trespassing into another habitation NOT their own. The
two events are distinct - this is basic too.
3.
And angels that were cast out of heaven down to the earth and the angels that were cast down to
hell - these two are distinct from what
is stated in Rev 20:1-2 as a result of Christ's redemptive work:
1¶And
I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and
a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent,
which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years. (The 1000 years
represent the long but definite period of the gospel age. That's another
subject))
4.
Both Peter and Jude were matter-of-factly speaking of a historical event, an
event that their Jewish recipients knew and understood. They needed no further
elaboration. But today, very few have any clue!
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Some
questions on 2Pet 2:4-5
1.
Who were the angels that were involved in this particular sin? (Let me assist
you a bit: Are these angels UNfallen angels; Are they fallen angels, If fallen
angels, were all the fallen angels involved,
or only some of the fallen angels? or something else?
2.
What was the sin committed by the angels involved?
3.
When did that happen?
4.
Is it recorded in the Scriptures? If so, where?
5.
Why did Peter and Jude take for granted that their recipients knew what they
were talking about?
6.
God not sparing the angels that sinned (v4) and God not sparing the old world
(v5), how are the two events related?
7.
Those angels that sinned, where are they now?
8.
What was the purpose of the angels that sinned, what did they want to
accomplish?
9.
Did they succeed? Why?
Questions
on Jude 6
1.
Who were the angels involved here?
2.
What was the first estate of the angels mentioned?
3.
What was the native habitation (their own) of these angels?
4.
When did those angels, that kept not their first estate, leave their own
habitation?
5.
What happened when they left their own habitation? What was their new
habitation having left their own habitation?
6.
Where, in the Scriptures, is this leaving their own habitation and trespassing
into another habitation recorded if is it indeed recorded at all?
7.
What did the angels purpose to accomplish when they trespassed into a
habitation not their own? What was their intention?
8.
Where did Jude get his information about those angels that kept not their first
estate but left their own habitation?
9.
Were ALL fallen angels involved in leaving their own habitation, or only some did? See Q1.
10.
Were ALL fallen angels reserved by God in everlasting chains under darkness
unto the judgment of the great day, or only those sinned in the manner described? Why?
These
are simple questions specifically related to the two passages. I will be most
grateful for your thoughts. Meanwhile, I will slaughter and roast the piglet
and brew some blue tea, ready for a good study.
Keep
busy, and put our brains into gear before we start revving our mouths. And please
note, the only thing I'm interested in is rightly dividing the word of truth.
And that begins with and requires some plain answers to the questions in those
two passages.
"And
no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." 2Co
11:14
