Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Thursday, November 24, 2022

There are those that oppose themselves!

Opposing himself and oblivious to it!
"No, but we are opposing our pastor-teacher," said they.

November 24, 2012
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2Tim 2
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

"...If God peradventure will give them repentance..."

(peradventure: an 
adverb, archaic: PERHAPS, POSSIBLY)

To whom does the pronoun 'them' refer:
- careless and foolish children of God, or
- those that are still dead in trespasses and sin?

1. Who are those who oppose themselves?

2. In what ways do they oppose themselves?

3. Who are they that are taken captive by the devil at his will?

4. Who are they that may RECOVER themselves out of the snare of the devil?

5. How are they to recover themselves from the snare of the devil?

6. Are those still dead in trespasses and sins capable of being instructed concerning spiritual things?

7. What do you think of the idea of God giving repentance to them that are still dead in trespasses and sins?  What good will it do?

Please give some answers and the reasons for them. Thanks.

BE CAREFUL - God's own children may be foolishly OPPOSING THEMSELVES!

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7 Comments

Charles Page
peradventure! possibly or perhaps. That is a precarious position for the Christians to be in! It is up to God to give repentance and He may just decide not to! He is the living God!

The elect unregenerate are not in such a precarious position and there is no preadventure in their new birth.

The Arminians think there is preadventure for the unregenerate.

Sing F Lau
It is foolish and PRESUMPTUOUS to think, "I can sin safely... I can always repent of it when needed!" The reality is, "if God peradventure will give them repentance..." is a stern warning against such folly. The wise Lord may just leave a presumptuous child to wallow and perish in his sin!

Charles Page
The wise Lord may just leave a presumptuous child to wallow and perish in his sin!

Sing, I think this is primarily directed toward religious leaders however religious leaders will use this thought to scare the pew-seaters. This seems to be the movement of Christ in the gospels. He had a compassionate understanding with the pew-seaters and chastised the leaders.

Sing F Lau
"And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves;"
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There is tenderness and patience in dealing with those who oppose themselves... so it is unlikely that Timothy is dealing with the religious leaders.

Your observation that Christ is hard on religious leaders is right!