Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Wednesday, October 22, 2025

How many members does Sungai Dua Church have?

Initially posted here:
https://www.facebook.com/sing.f.lau/posts/pfbid0ZbyDvtnKBenNtr9qxfW5uLUE2nKkPMy67a71FLVbSxec4ZqRQJWjeWbqFJzYP3yLl

[May 3, 2024, 6:24 PM]
Inquirer
Sir, if you don't mind telling me, Sungai Dua Church has how many members? But if you do mind, then you needn't let me know.

sing
That's a good question.
Until till middle of last year, we had 23 members, including those who were not in Penang (i.e. non-resident members). Over the years, some have moved away for further education or work. Some continue to maintain their membership with Sungai Dua Church because they can't bring themselves to unite with the churches they worship with.

Others managed to unite themselves as members with other churches where God has placed them. They have been taught good churchmanship as disciples of Jesus Christ.

Out of the Movement Control Order (Covid-19), two issues began to agitate some members:
- Non-resident membership (members who have moved away) cannot remain as members. 
- baptism and membership (baptism and membership are separate matters.)

We went through the issues, we studied and discussed the matter. We concluded and made things clear - so everyone understood the issues. Three families chose to follow an American teacher instead of the Bible; they left the church.

May 1, 2023, was also the church's 30th anniversary.

We took the occasion to renew the Covenant of Members.

Only 8 decided to renew the Covenant of Members.
- 8 non-resident members (2 in Perth, 2 in Singapore, 3 in KL, and 1 in Ireland) did not renew the Covenant. (The 2 in KL continue to come as much as they can. They will likely retire in Penang in the future, the Lord willing.)
- 5 resident members resigned (these protested against non-resident membership, but ended up as church-less! What an irony and a farce!)
- 2 resident members did not renew the Members' Covenant. One continues to come.

So, to answer your question, we have 8 members, 1/3 of "a very little" of what you see in Xrbc. I'm glad you asked.

[May 4, 2024 7:34 AM]
Inquirer

I guess small can be beautiful also. But how can your church survive with only 8 people?

s️ing
Indeed. Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder; it depends chiefly on the beholder's heart - what he wants, what's important to him. Some are ashamed to be associated with a tiny church because the size of the congregation matters supremely to them. To others, other considerations are of utmost importance.

The good Lord has provided for the last three decades; the tiny church has not lacked financially in any way. The hearts of good men are in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: He turneth it whithersoever He will. Pro 21:1

The people are giving freely and cheerfully; I live within and below my means by willing choice.

s️ing
The membership is 8; attendees are probably twice that number.
Today, few Christians have good churchmanship - they have a pathetic view of the church of Jesus Christ and His servants. The 1689.26 CoF lays down the principles of good churchmanship.

A man who is called by Christ will overcome hardship, deprivation, trials, etc. He will run the race and fight a good fight of faith.

May the Lord be with MW of Xrbc. Encourage him. Amen.

Inquirer
It must be sad for the pastor to see his flock leaving one by one or pass on.

sing
It's fine if one maintains a godly perspective, i.e. the sovereign Lord adds and He takes away. We rejoice when He adds to the church; we also rejoice when members, by God's providence, need to move on. We pray that they may be good disciples of Christ where they are.

[Sunday, May 5, 2924, 2:23 PM]
s️ing
Today, there were 19 in the congregation, 7 of them members. We observed the Lord's Supper.

We enjoyed our monthly fellowship lunch.

I preached from Song 4:1 and Ecc 12:1-2. We are going through these two books on Sunday, and the Gospel of Luke on Wednesday evenings.

I hope you have had a blessed time of worship and fellowship with God's
children... despite being church-less. Amen.

Take a look at this post:
https://www.facebook.com/sing.f.lau/posts/pfbid02ErEfj6isC4XNSQydEGAp3ZrkYFfoJfSmZt9SaBjEvkZbeTNPxvSvLLbT1LmexV1Ul