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Calvinistic
sounding Arminians
I
wrote:
'The
Calvinists DO NOT really believe that eternal salvation is by grace alone...
because they insist that men MUST do something in order to appropriate that
salvation for themselves.'
A
Calvinist protested:
'I
don't know which Calvinists you talk to, but it seems you're under a
misconception. I'm a Calvinist, and what you're saying about us is simply not
true.
Another
more stridently:
'100%
error. Sadly, Sing. Think before you type my brother.'
Then
another Calvinist insisted:
"Faith
is a necessary requirement for salvation, and Calvinists believe this." The
other Calvinists expressed hearty amen to this statement.
See
what I mean! They just prove my point!
That
statement is the most illogical and
nonsensical statement. That is why I say Calvinists DON'T REALLY believe in
free grace salvation. But they sincerely think so; however, in reality, they
repudiate it.
Faith
is a saving grace, a FRUIT, and EFFECT of salvation ALREADY freely bestowed, is it not?
No? Will any Calvinist worth his salt DENY that faith is a fruit of salvation
ALREADY bestowed?
Isn't
faith, the believing and resting in Jesus Christ, an EFFECT of the eternal life
ALREADY bestowed by the free and sovereign act of effectual call to grace and
salvation? No? Will any Calvinist worth his salt DENY that faith is a fruit of
salvation ALREADY bestowed?
How
can a FRUIT and EFFECT of salvation be the requirement for that salvation? Have
Calvinists lost their mind? They haven't. Just confused.
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Willy
Keat
Mr.
Sing, your doctrine is very hard to understand.....
Bill
Taylor
Per John's first epistle, Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ IS born if God. In this, it is evident that the "borning" precedes the believing. Amen, Bro. Sing.
Sing
Willy,
it is actually very simple if you would humbly accept the truth. All my 4
children have no problem understanding and believing.
Please
tell me: do you breathe IN ORDER to get life, OR do you breathe BECAUSE you
have life?
Do
you understand this statement: life precedes all the activities of that life?
If
you do, do you agree that it is a basic and fundamental truth?
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." - Leo Tolstoy –
[Hermon made some comments but has deleted them.]
Sing
Hermon,
which species of tulip? I have heard of several... some very injurious to the
truth! Seriously.
Sing
Thanks, Brother Hermon.
All
the different species are called by the small acronym! … See More
Dallas
Eaton II
IS
=, 1+1+1= 3, or one plus one plus one is three.
Brother
Herman, I am not arguing with you, but I see perseverance as a word describing
what I do to remain in a certain condition. I would define preservation as that
which maintains my condition despite my perseverance. I simply believe the
elect are preserved, that many may and do persevere by Grace, but not all do or
will persevere in Grace, but will instead fall from Grace, yet never fall from
their positional condition in Christ. We can fall from Grace in many different
ways.
Michael
Lim
Thank
God that He has revealed the truth to unworthy ppl like myself and others. I am
not in the confused state now, or else I will be rambling some illogical
thoughts out and ppl will get confused. LOL!
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