Re 19:13 "And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood:and His name is called the Word of God."
Here are a few exchanges involving the phrase 'word of God.'
Wiebe
Asked about his accomplishments as a Reformer, Martin Luther said, “I simply taught, preached, wrote God’s Word: otherwise I did nothing… The Word did it all.” The Word of God brings life. ~ Mark Dever
Sing F Lau
Is the 'Word of God' that brings life a person or something administered by Mark Dever and Martin Luther? I ask to understand.
The "Word of God" that gives life and the "word of God" that is administered to nourish the life that has been given MUST BE DISTINGUISHED... to avoid confusion and errors.
Wiebe
@ Sing. with your distinction between Jesus, the Word of God and the Bible as the Word of God, is there a question as to whether the Scriptures are inerrant and that they are somehow less authoritative as the voice of God to lost humanity? there are implications to these perspectives as I am sure you are well aware of.
Sing F Lau
@Wiebe
The purpose of the distinction between a divine Person, and the divine revelation is of utmost importance if we are to rightly divide the word of truth.
The issue of the infallibility and authority of the revealed word of God (the Scriptures) does not arise.
Jesus is the eternal Word of God made flesh, therefore fully divine and fully God. This Word of God is a divine Person, and in Him is life. He gives eternal life.
The Scriptures is the revealed word of God, to His people, for their instruction and edification. Scriptures are given for God's people.
Just as the eternal Word of God made flesh is perfect and sinless, the revealed will of God through men (Scriptures through men) is perfect and inerrant and authoritative.
Sing F Lau
Without making a clear distinction, how many have erred in understanding important doctrines and biblical passages.
For example:
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
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How many there are who care not for the SENSE of this passage but are carried away by the SOUND of it... and insist that the 'word of God' here refers to the Scriptures... the written word of God. The context plainly tells us that the 'word of God' is a DIVINE PERSON!
Sing F Lau
Another example:
1Pet 1
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24 ¶ For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth..., and the flower thereof falleth away:
25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
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Not rightly dividing the word of truth, so many ended up with the lie of gospel regeneration, the preaching of the gospel is a necessary instrument in the Spirit's work of regeneration.
The WORD and the GOSPEL and the PREACHING are clearly distinguished!
The gospel declares the Word of God, the divine person! There is gospel because the eternal Word was made flesh and executed the works of redemption for the people God has given to Him.
Trowse
Sing, are you saying that John 1 is about Jesus is the eternal Word made flesh? What is the eternal Word? I thought it just said Word.
Nolfo
FAITH COMETH BY HEARING THE WORD OF GOD!!!
(so? The devil can quote Scriptures too, only far better!)
Sing F Lau
@Greg
"1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life;... and the life was the light of men...
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Yes, John 1 is about the eternal Word made flesh.
Indeed it says the Word, but it says the Word was God. If the Word was God, then it must be eternal. The Word refers to the second person of the Trinity before incarnation. The Word is eternal. The Word WAS MADE, became flesh in TIME. Jesus Christ is the eternal Word became flesh.
1Jo 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
Re 19:13 "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God."
Sing F Lau
@Salvatore
Please learn to quote correctly! Carelessness is no virtue in understanding God's word.
Ro 10:17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
There are two distinct but related matters here.
One:
'So then faith cometh by hearing' - tells the necessity of preaching the gospel. Preaching the gospel DRAWS FORTH the grace of faith that HAS BEEN worked by the Spirit of Christ who dwells in the hearts of the children of God. Without the preaching of the gospel, the grace of faith worked in the hearts of God's children will not be manifested. Life and immortality in them would not be made manifest!
2Ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
Two:
'And hearing by the word of God': hearing is an activity of life. Ability to hear spiritual things proclaimed in the gospel is through the spiritual life given BY the life giving person designated as the word of God.
Except a man be born again... he cannot see, cannot hear spiritual things, etc.
Wiebe
the Word of Scripture is uniquely God-inspired unlike any other literature whereby we may believe Jesus is the Messiah.
John 20:30-31
30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of His disciples that are not written in this book. 31 But these are written so that you may believe Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and by believing you may have life in His name.
Trowse
Sing, John MacArthur describes the "Word" differently. Check out Gen 1:3 Pss 33:6 107:20 Prov 8:27. The "Word" is referring to Jesus or the second person of the trinity.
I think to sum up John is saying Jesus is God who spoke the words"let there be light" In fact He spoke all the "let there be" creations in Gen...
Sing F Lau
Trowse, so much for the shibboleth "sola scriptura."
Here is the word (lower case "w"), the Scriptures inspired by God...
Jesus is the eternal Word made flesh.
"1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life;... and the life was the light of men...
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
