Things New and Old: "The church is a redemptive place," said Ahlee

Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things" 2Ti 2:7.

Friday, April 26, 2024

"The church is a redemptive place," said Ahlee

Redemptive or not?

Lee
The church is a redemptive place for a person like him. However, the church always pretends to be more holy than thou, so the problem begins....

sing
The church is NOT a redemptive place. There is redemption i.e. deliverance from eternal condemnation by Christ's righteousness and blood. The church is a hospital for nursing back to health of those whom God has REDEEMED by His free grace in Christ Jesus. In nursing them back to spiritual health, they are taught and reminded of the standard of holiness required of them by their Lord and Saviour. The church is OBLIGATED to insist upon the holiness Jesus Christ requires of those who bear His holy name. "Ye have been called unto holiness", and a faithful church will preach and teach all that Christ has commanded them to observe. Amen.

Lee
I think, again, we have to properly define what is a church. An ecclesia of his people.
Sorry, heavy theological discussion is very difficult to clarify in WhatsApp.

sing
Which part so far is HEAVY? Ecclesia is a big word. What is it? Give a definition. It would be helpful.

However one may define church, it is NOT redemptive at all. Christ Jesus alone HAS REDEEMED His people. This is basic and elementary, hardly heavy or theological. There is NO redemption apart from Christ Jesus. ALONE To say otherwise is injurious to the honour and glory of Christ.

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace."

"Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins."

In WHOM we have redemption, through His blood.