Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Monday, January 24, 2022

"Eternal Salvation: Free Free or Fake Free?


https://www.facebook.com/sing.f.lau/posts/10215535140267106
January 24, 2020 

#FREE_FREE_or_FAKE_FREE

I received a private message:

"Please visit my page (Only One Truth) and read my 01/20-21 post... "Eternal Salvation: Free Free or Fake Free?")..."

I visited and left a few comments... but noticed that some were censored. So, I deleted the others too.

The post is captured in the picture below.

The author is wrestling with the glaring inconsistency that should be obvious to every sound-minded Christian with some common sense. The author, though trying to wrestle free from such inconsistency, is still stuck with it without knowing it. I tried to show him how to be consistent and to be "truly free" indeed and not just "fake free" in sound-byte only, but he baulked and censored my comments. 

He has started well; to be aware of the glaring inconsistency is a good start toward a perfectly consistent understanding of the issue. But he has baulked...

The simple answer lies in the distinction between eternal salvation and temporal salvation, and the five distinct facets of salvation. 

His idea of FREE FREE eternal salvation is still embroiled with man's role in obtaining it. In his words, "...  in order to obtain this “free gift” of [eternal] salvation…a person needs simply…to depend on, or to rely upon, Jesus Christ..." That is exactly what multitudes of preachers DO teach.

I pointed out that his idea of FREE FREE eternal salvation IS STILL conditioned upon the simple activities of a man depending on or relying upon Jesus Christ; it is still FAKE FREE! It's a classic case of the porky calling cattle beast. 😉

I said the simple truth is that only a man to whom God has ALREADY FREELY bestowed eternal salvation is capable of those simple activities he mentioned... he went ballistic! 

May the inconsistency he sees continue to haunt him until the right dividing the word of truth deliver him! Amen.  (I suffered the nightmare of seeing inconsistencies for several years before the Lord converted me to the truth about 18 years ago, 20 years after being a Reformed Baptist!) Multitudes are oblivious to the glaring inconsistency! Others call it "blessed inconsistency" of the gospel of Jesus Christ - what blasphemy!

 2Ti 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

 

Sing F Lau
"An offer of salvation..."
=====
To whom offered? Obviously to those without the salvation that is offered. Those without salvation are dead in trespasses and sins. To offer salvation to such is at best superstitious, at better, it is stupid!

How is it possible to reconcile the idea of an offer of salvation, however sincere and persuasive, to those dead in trespasses and sins?

Sing F Lau
The is NO offer, much less a free offer in John 3:14-16!

It is a statement on the greatness of the love of God.

https://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2008/02/john-316-how-did-god-so-love.html
John 3:16 - How did God so love?

Sing F Lau
Thomas, I was waiting for others to show you your own inconsistency but none is forthcoming. Maybe they perceive the futility of attempting; since you fail to see your obvious inconsistency I have pointed out to you.

It is commendable that you see the glaring inconsistencies in others; it is sad that you fail to see a similar inconsistency in your own understanding.

Explaining further would be futile.