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| Gospel Regeneration - that is, regeneration by the Holy Spirit "THROUGH the preaching of God's glorious gospel." |
https://www.facebook.com/sing.f.lau/posts/10213019572179476
January
4, 2019
Pristine
or Polluted?
Gospel
Regeneration - that is, regeneration by the Holy Spirit "THROUGH the
preaching of God's glorious gospel."
This
is no grace, much less pristine grace.
The
author of Pristine Grace proudly confesses himself as a hyper-calvinist. As
a hyper-calvinist, he approves of, and believes in, as the quote below
demonstrates and affirms, the popular notion of gospel regeneration. Doing so
proves that he is one very confused hyper-calvinist.
Gospel
regeneration is a popular notion loved and defended by both the Calvinists as
well as the Arminians.
The
Scriptures declare and demonstrate that regeneration is the sovereign work of
God, independent of, and is logically as well as chronologically prior to, any
human activities like the preaching, and the hearing, understanding and
believing the gospel.
What
is claimed as pristine grace is actually no grace at all.
Who
preached God's glorious gospel to Abraham? When did he hear it? When was he
regenerated, before he left Ur or in Gen 15?
Simple questions seeking to
magnify pristine grace, not fake or polluted grace.
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Brandan
Kraft
Sing,
this author believes in a supernatural metaphysical and epistemological
regeneration process. Try asking me what I actually think about it before you
comment on what you think I believe. Your heretic hunting does not impress me.
“Classical
calvinists teach that regeneration occurs right at conversion - that
regeneration is dependent upon knowledge of the Gospel. I disagree with both
teachings! I believe that regeneration is a process that takes place in the
life of the elect individual sometimes starting long before they are converted.
But it is mostly an epistemological process. The Holy Spirit reveals pieces of
the truth before revealing the full truth of the Gospel of Justification by
grace alone without conditions. For example, how can one know what salvation is
unless of course he knows what sin is? How can one know who Christ is unless He
understands who God is, and how can one understand who God is unless they know
what His attributes are? Regeneration isn’t just single event! It’s a series of
events, and starts in the womb for many of His elect people. John the Baptist
for example lept in Elizabeth’s womb for joy (Luke 1:44). The hand of the Lord
is upon His people from before they are born and throughout their entire lives
even before conversion. His love for them is unending, and He is in the process
of preparing them for Gospel conversion their whole lives before they are
actually converted to the truth in its Gospel fullness.”
https://www.pristinegrace.org/media.php?id=745
The
Epistemological Work of the Holy Spirit - Brandan Kraft
Sing
F Lau
Big
words are impressive. Simple words like "...those born of God by the Holy
Spirit through the preaching of God's glorious gospel" convey a definite
meaning - gospel regeneration.
Brandan
Kraft
Sing
F Lau I don’t think you are impressed.
Brandan
Kraft
Sing
F Lau I think you believe regeneration IS salvation and don’t find it in
Christ’s work alone. Your salvation is conditioned upon regeneration.
Sing
F Lau
Brandan
Kraft, you think this and you think that. Why don't you just take my words? I
said I'm impressed with your big words "metaphysical and
epistemological", you pretended to be able to read my mind and say
otherwise.
So the author believes that regeneration is a PROCESS, coupled with those Impressive big words adjectives.
Sing
F Lau
Brandan
Kraft, you think this and that. On what basis did you say that my salvation is
conditioned upon regeneration and that salvation is not founded in Christ work
alone?
