Things New & Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths. Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.


Friday, October 31, 2014

Perfect Harmony Between the Decretive and Preceptive Will of God

New school calvinists put up signs like this!!!
New school calvinists put up signs like this!!!
Can you accept this proposition as a self-evident truth:
The decretive will of God and the preceptive will of the SAME God, though distinct and separate, are perfectly consistent and harmonious, without any inconsistency or contradiction between them? But many believe in a schizophrenic god of their own imaginations!

IF the decretive will of God and the preceptive will of the SAME God, though distinct and separate, are perfectly consistent and harmonious, without any inconsistency or contradiction between them... THEN why do the new school calvinists:

1. IGNORE the decretive will, and believe and act contrary to God's decretive will.
- God has decreed eternal redemption for a very specific and particular people, and Christ accomplished that redemption for the same particular and specific people, and the Holy Spirit applied that eternal redemption to individuals personally of that exact same people.

- God's preceptive will is consistent with his decretive will... He sends forth preachers to herald the gospel to the recipients of that eternal redemption, i.e. God's children (those elect that God has effectually called out of their native state of sin and death to that state of to grace and salvation) that they may know the glorious things that God has done for them by His free and sovereign grace, and to gather them into NT churches.

THEN... THEN... pretend that the gospel call to believe in Jesus Christ applies to all men without distinction?

Why do the new school calvinists ignore the decretive will of God, and go around offering, hawking and pedaling THE gospel - the good news of what God HAS DONE to save ONLY His own people - to all men without distinction???

IF the decretive will of God and the preceptive will of the SAME God, though distinct and separate, are perfectly consistent and harmonious, without any inconsistency or contradiction between them... THEN why do the new school calvinists:

2. IGNORE the decretive will, and believe and teach contrary to God's decretive will.

Why do the new school calvinists pretend and teach that faith in Jesus Christ is the duty of every sinner, even those for whom Christ did not die, and God decreed not to save but leave them in their sin? Why do they insist that even those whom God has bypassed in His decree to save in Jesus Christ has the SAME duty to believe in Jesus Christ?

It is the duty of a man to believe truth. It is never the duty of a man to believe a lie. Only those whom God has saved have the duty to believe that Jesus Christ has saved them. But the new school calvinists believe in a god that requires some men to believe a LIE!

The risen Lord Jesus gave pastors and teachers to His church to preach the truth of what God has done for His people in order to call out those He HAS SAVED, and gather them into churches.

A universalist believes that Christ died for all to make all saveable, and therefore logically and consistently believes these things:
1. That the gospel call applies to all the listeners,
2. That faith is the duty of every sinner,
3. That the gospel "offers" Christ and salvation to all,
4. That the gospel offers ...of divine mercy is free and universal,
5. That the saving grace in Jesus Christ is common to all, and
6. That God has the same saving love for all, the elect and the non-elect.
     (the universalists, of course, curse the truth of election!)

Because of their theology of universal redemption, their method is wholly consistent.
Why do the new school calvinists who boast in election and particular redemption ALSO believe the same method of the universalists?

Doesn't one's theology affect one's practice?

Initially posted here:
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Monday, October 27, 2014

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.



When the earth and the heaven fled away!!!

Just some though on this passage... Think about it.
Rev 20
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Some observations:

i. The passage describes the general judgment at the last day:
- it will be the end of the present world as we know it... "the earth and the heaven fled away."
- eternity proper will begin. The state of changelessness will dawn and the elect enters into their eternal inheritance..."
To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

ii. The whole of humanity stands before the great white throne:
- all those whose names were written in the book of life (that is the reason the book of life is mentioned twice), together all the rest of the human race.

iii. And death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:
- at the command of Him who holds the keys of hell and of death, Rev 1:18.
- hell would be emptied of the dead then. NONE would be found in hell any more. - That hell is eternal is a popular myth! Lake of fire after the general resurrection is eternal!

iv. Both death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
- The purpose and intent of this statement is to comfort the children of God, i.e. death and hell shall never trouble God's children any more.
- None of those whose names were written in the book of life will be in the lake of fire. Death and hell were absolutely and completely removed from them at resurrection to eternal glory.
- Hell (emptied of the dead) was cast into the lake of fire... hell and the lake of fire are DISTINCT. The former is up to the time of the general resurrection only, the latter is for eternity.

v. Whosoever whose names were not written in the book of life were cast into the lake of fire.
- The corollary: whosoever whose name were written in the book of life entered into their glorious inheritance of eternal blessedness AFTER the general resurrection.
- " For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."

Christ's redemptive work eternally saved His people from the lake of fire. It is a work most assuredly finsihed, and accomplished its goal. That explains why Christ never once warned His disciples against the lake of fire. But He constantly warned then of the reality and danger of hell, and do by all means to avoid it. 

But the devil has deceived the Christian church to believe, and teach that there is no hell for God's people before their resurr4ection to glory DESPITE the HARD fact that Christ so solemnly warned His disciples against the reality of hell between physical death and resurrection to glory. 


Eternity will begin at rsurrection to glory. Before eternity, changes will still occur...

1Cor 15:42-44
So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.



Sunday, October 19, 2014

Are men's places in heaven already predestined and fixed?


Job 38 31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades,
or loose the bands of Orion?
32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season?
or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven?
canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
 
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From: Nicole
Date: Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Subject: questions about the bible/christianity
To: sing

Hi Pastor Lau,
It's Nicole (again). I really don't know how to phrase my question because my ideas are rather incoherent but I'll try to illustrate what I'm trying to say. Rom 8:29 says that "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers ", so does that mean the places in heaven are already....predestined and fixed?



Date: Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Dear Sister Nicole,
Thank you for your inquiries. Inquiry is an excellent means to seek after the truth, and to rightly understand the truth of the Scriptures. So, please continue to inquire after the truth. The Lord has promised his disciples, "seek, and ye shall find."

They are good inquiries, and I hope you will learn and practice the truth that the Lord will show to you. Truth demands allegiance; errors requires abhorrence. Indifference to either is great offense to the God of truth. In Ps 99:8, we read, "Thou answeredst them, O LORD our God: thou wast a God that forgavest them, though thou tookest vengeance of their inventions." The merciful and gracious God took vengeance against the inventions of His people. The inventions spoken of here are things and ideas - eg. women pastors, and gibberish 'tongues' - they add their own inventions to the worship of God. God's vengeance indicates that these inventions are abominations in His sight. Separate yourselves from those given to their own inventions in matters of doctrines and practices in the Christian religion. "They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger." Deut 32:16

I will leave some comments within your post. Please feel free to ask further if you have any further queries. We will learn together, and see what God has spoken in the Scriptures.

##It's Nicole (again). I really don't know how to phrase my question because my ideas are rather incoherent but I'll try to illustrate what I'm trying to say. Rom 8:29 says that "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers ", so does that mean the places in heaven are already....predestined and fixed?##

I do understand the essence of your inquiry. Any thinking person would have to wrestle with this 'apparent' contradiction. However, there is no contradiction at all. Your inquiry has to do with the relationship between divine sovereignty and human responsibility. There is perfect harmony between DIVINE SOVEREIGNTY and HUMAN RESPONSIBILITY - rightly understood. These two biblical truths are most essential for a proper and correct understanding of the biblical doctrine of salvation. Your inquiry touches on so many biblical truths, that I am not sure where to begin.

You asked, "so does that mean the places in heaven are already....predestined and fixed?" 
My simple answer is , 'Yes, and Yes.' And the Scriptures provide ample and plain evidence to this biblical truth.

We will start with the passage you quoted, i.e. Rom 8:29-30. Read it real slow and take in the plain truth stated there. You and I are only interested in what the Scriptures declares... and embrace its teaching.

"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."

First, let us observe some basic truths asserted here in this passage.
1. All the activities mentioned – foreknow, predestinate, call, justify, glorify - are all the God’s activities. They are not only God’s activities, they are wholly divine and monergistic, i.e. God acting sovereignly and freely, without the co-operation or assistance of those acted upon.
2. All the divine activities mentioned are stated in the SIMPLE PAST TENSE. In the purpose of God, all these activities are as good as have happened and completed actions.
3. All the divine activities mentioned are SOLELY AND COMPLETELY by free and sovereign divine grace - of pure and unadulterated divine grace in our eternal salvation, none is conditioned on anything outside of God. From beginning to end - note the unbroken chain between foreknowing and glorification - God alone is the cause and author of those actions.
4. The EXACT SAME NUMBER of people is the subject of EACH of all those activities – “whom he did… he also… whom he did, he also...” All these divine activities embrace and apply to exactly the SAME people… not one less, and not one more.
What this passage is declaring is this:
- God foreknew (loved beforehand, i.e. even before the foundation of the world) a certain number of people out of the fallen race of Adam)...
- God predestinated (predetermined their eternal destination, even heaven) the same people to eternal glory...
- God acted in time to bring the same number of people to eternal glory.
- He called each one of them who were dead in trespasses and sins to life and eternal salvation.
- He justified them by removing them by removing their just condemnation from them and imputed to them the righteousness of Jesus Christ. Sins brings condemnation and eternal death. Righteousness brings forgiveness and life. But it is the righteousness of Christ ALONE that bring forgiveness and eternal life.
- (Those who possess eternal life, i.e. who are God's children are the object of the gospel ministry)
- He glorified them through resurrecting them to eternal glory and blessedness at Christ coming. But this is spoken of in the simple past tense, because in the eternal purpose of God, the glorification of His chosen people is as good as a past and completed event because of its absolute certainty of coming to pass.

See the solid unbroken chain: God foreknew a people... He predestinated these same people to eternal glory. He called these same people out of their sin and condemnation to righteousness and eternal life. He justified these same people... and He glorified the same people. Not one more nor one less. God has FIXED it - by His sovereignty - to bring a fixed certain number of HELL-DESERVING sinners to heaven.

God by His sovereign grace, has not left the whole human race of sinners to their just and deserved desert of eternal hell. He chose to save some, and by His own will and power, assuredly bring them to eternal glory.

I understand that is what the passage says. Others may disagree vehemently. Ask them to give their interpretation.

Here are some passages with a plain message. The Bible speaks of the Book of Life in which many names are written. WHEN were those names written?

Php 4:3 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
Re 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Re 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Those names in the book of life were written BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD - the names of those who God had foreknown and predestinated. These are the people God gave to Christ that he may come and save them from their condemnation. Jesus said: "37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.  39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day." John 6.

Those in the book of life are those whom God the Father had chosen and gave to Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ came to save those ONLY, not one more and not one less. Joh 17:2 "As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him." 'As many as' means just that - not one more and not one less.

Many lying preachers teach that names are written in the book of life when a person believe! They are liars. There are people who believe the gospel because their names were written in the book of life before the foundation of the world, and God called them to eternal life in time and enabled them to believe the truth of the gospel.

Here is another passage for your consideration, Eph 1
 3 ¶ Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Meditate one this passage, and draw out some conclusion.

You asked, "so does that mean the places in heaven are already....predestined and fixed?"

Imagine for a moment Nicole! Consider this question carefully.
If God DID NOT already predestinate and fix to save and bring some people to heaven, then what would happen? If God did not foreknow, predestinate, call, justify and glorify any sinner, but instead leave the whole matter to sinners to choose, would any sinner ever be found in heaven?

If God leave it to HELL DESERVING sinners to choose and decide for themselves whether they would want to go to heaven or not, would there be one found in heaven? If you and I were to leave the fish to decide whether they will live in the air, would any be able to decide to do so?

Ah, I praise and bless the Lord that He is the God who has chosen to save poor sinners who are hell-bent rebels against God.

Ro 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Ro 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Would these choose heaven??????

I will respond to the other part later. If you have further questions, please feel free to ask.

your friend in Christ.
sing