The gospel, and another gospel

Is it the gospel or another gospel which is no gospel?

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December 4, 2019  

#Another_gospel

This is the gospel:

"Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus." Romans 3:24.

This is GOOD NEWS indeed to the condemned needing justification by God.

"freely by his grace" - the ALONE method the condemned are justified by God."...

"through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" - the ALONE basis the condemned are justified by God.

This is wonderfully good news!

This is another gospel:

"Being justified by your faith alone in Jesus Christ."

This is BAD NEWS (in fact, it is an injurious mockery) to the condemned needing the justification by God.

Have you understood?

God had great faith in Jesus, His only begotten

God had great faith in Jesus, His only begotten

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December 1, 2010 

God had great faith in Jesus, His only begotten Son. "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased... be hearing him."

For thousands of years, God had freely justified multitudes of His elect and gave them eternal life based on what the promised seed of the woman would accomplish when the eternal Word was made flesh in time and begotten the Son of God.

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Janet Hill Bell
I hate to hear Preachers say that God has faith in US......NO he doesn't! Jesus is God's EVERYTHING & Christians are blessed if they know that. God had one answer for the world......Jesus Christ!! Brother Sing.....well said....again!

Sing F Lau
How could God justly forgive the sins of His people prior to Christ making actual payment for them?

Ro 3:24-25
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God..."

In the above text...
- through whose faith in Christ blood?
- what do 'sins that are past' refer to? Whose sins? 'Past' with reference to what?
- is 'his righteousness' referring to God's attribute of righteousness, or to God's provision of righteousness?
- what is the Divine forbearance related to? What would have happened if there was no such divine forbearance?

Uncle Joe
I'll give you my view of the passage.

I believe Paul is referring to all the sins of God's elect that were committed prior to Calvary. God didn't save His people in the Old Testament era one way and now in the New Testament era another way. He saves all of His chosen ones alike.

If this be the case, God relied on the finished work of Christ for the salvation of His Old Testament people just as He does for us. From a human, temporal perspective, Paul could describe this work as the Father's faith in His Son's blood long before the Son came and shed His blood.

"Faith" in this sense certainly does not carry the notion of hope, or of trusting what we do not know. It rather carries the idea of perfect reliance. The Father applied the finished work of Christ to His elect in regeneration, fully relying on the work, although it was yet future.

Hope this helps

David
- through whose faith in Christ blood?
A. God the Father’s – Knowing that the Son would be faithful to die for the sins of many.

- what do 'sins that are past' refer to? 'Past' with reference to what?
A. Sins of God’s children prior to the coming of Christ.

- is 'his righteousness' God's attribute of righteousness, or God's provision of righteousness?
A. Christ’s righteousness as the only acceptable sacrifice.

- what is the Divine forbearance related to?
A. God tolerated the sins of His as though they were already forgiven, even though the actual act of redemption had not been accomplished.

Bernie
Br. Joe, you have exactly expressed my understanding of Paul's language in these precise verses (Rom. 3:24-25).

People err when they attempt to define the Father's faith in His Son by applying Paul's faith definition that is labeled in Hebrews 11:1. This particular verse (11:1) describes the faith of the regenerated elect, not the faith God had in His Son. God's faith is that confidence and reliance had in His Son by reason of God's perfect, absolute knowledge.

Man's faith is variable (neither consistent, nor absolute); whereas, God's faith is constant and is with the absolute perfection of certainty. Brother Joe's post is with get clarity of truth. Many thanks for it.

I appreciate this needed discussion.

Adam Wells
Thanks for your post Bro Sing. Just today I saw someone post this verse and then go on to say that "past sins" refers only to the sins of believers prior to regeneration. I appreciate your explanation.

Guard jealously the name and honour of the LORD God

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December 3, 2017

In the midst of a massive crisis and disaster, Moses' mind was chiefly consumed with GUARDING the good name and the honour of the LORD God; and on that ground pleaded for pardon for the grievous sins of unbelief of His people.

Brother Kok Yu led the first service and read from Numbers 14:1-30; he reminded us of the truth that the "The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation."

Though the LORD relented from destroying the rebellious and unbelieving Israelites, they were consigned to wander and perish in the wilderness over the 40 years period.

May that spirit of Moses for the good name and honour of God among the heathen be found in us too. LORD, help us.

Numbers 14
13 And Moses said unto the LORD, Then the Egyptians shall hear it, (for thou broughtest up this people in thy might from among them;)
14 And they will tell it to the inhabitants of this land: for they have heard that thou LORD art among this people, that thou LORD art seen face to face, and that thy cloud standeth over them, and that thou goest before them, by day time in a pillar of a cloud, and in a pillar of fire by night.
15 Now if thou shalt kill all this people as one man, then the nations which have heard the fame of thee will speak, saying,
16 Because the LORD was not able to bring this people into the land which he sware unto them, therefore he hath slain them in the wilderness.

A famine of hearing the words of the LORD

A famine of bread, and water is what people fear most;
but there is a far worse famine that few care about.

The LORD commanded Amos,

 "Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
But Amaziah said,
"Prophesy not against Israel."

Fine, you shall get what you want,
A famine of hearing the words of the LORD. 

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December 3, 2018

Natural famines are keenly felt by natural men. Merely missing a meal or two is enough to make many quite grumpy!

But does the famine of the word distress God's children as much? Do they whine when they absent themselves from the ministry of the word? Are they even aware of the famine they are in? Or are they quite happy with the husks that the swine eat? (Luke 15:16).

2Timothy 4
1 ¶ I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

If Timothy is solemnly CHARGED to:
"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season;"
Then his flock is solemnly CHARGED, by NECESSARY IMPLICATION, to:
"Hear the word; be instant in season, out of season."

Timothy was not commanded to preach to walls;
he was commanded to preach to God's children.

1Ti 4:16 "Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee."

Gospel regeneration is a lie!

John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth,
and thou hearest the sound thereof,
but canst not tell whence it cometh,
and whither it goeth:
so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

No, no, no; the wind doesn't have to wait
until you are around the trees to blow!
Even so, the Spirit of God freely and sovereignly
 regenerates each elect without the presence/aid of the preachers!

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December 2, 2010

Jude 3 "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." (kjv)

See what it says - the faith was delivered to the saints. Saints are PRIOR to the deliverance of the faith to them. Plain enough?

There goes the heretical notion of gospel regeneration!

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Sing F Lau
Romans 1:6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: 7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

The recipients are described as::
- ALSO the called of Jesus Christ

- Beloved of God
- Called saints,
though they were in urgent need of hearing the gospel from Apostle Paul!

Please note very carefully that Apostle Paul was writing to those in Rome who were ALREADY the ‘called of Jesus Christ’, ‘beloved of God,’ and ‘called saints’.

Such are found among ALL nations (ethnesin- from which we get ‘ethnic’), i.e. among all people groups. Apostle Paul is writing to such in Rome.

His apostleship/apostolic ministry is intended for those whom he describes as ‘the called of Jesus Christ,’ ‘beloved of God,’ and ‘called saints.’ God is their Father, and Jesus Christ is Lord over them.

Therefore Apostle Paul’s writing to these people must never be understood as teaching them HOW they can become the ‘called of Jesus Christ’, ‘beloved of God,’ ‘saints,’ and children of God.

They were ALREADY such… and were such without, and before the hearing of the gospel. see Romans 15:20.

The popular lie of ‘gospel regeneration’, i.e. gospel preaching is the necessary prerequisite instrument for regeneration is repudiated by the plain testimony of Scriptures.

Apostle Paul was earnest and urgent in preaching the gospel to those who were ALSO the called of Jesus Christ, Beloved of God, and Called saints.

Sing F Lau
Lord, open the blind eyes of the gospel regenerationists among your children to behold, and to teach, the truth of pure grace in eternal salvation.

Alan
Does God ordain all events that come to pass? And before Jesus said Lazarus come forth was Lazarus already alive?

Sing F Lau
Alan, send over a beef calf first, then I will think about your meaty questions!

Alan Lloyd
What airmail or by boat. they can only navigate themselves to long grass.

Sing F Lau
Thanks Alan, the calf came through... I downloaded it!

Neat huh!

Brother Keith has given you good answers to your first question.

No, God did not ordain ALL events that come to pass. He did ordain MANY events to come to pass.

Before Jesus spoke His LIFE-GIVING voice, Lazarus was dead and rotting away.

And before Jesus spoke His LIFE-GIVING voice, Lazarus was dead and rotting away, the disciples were helpless, incapable of doing anything. The Lord himself didn't ask them to do anything, because there was ABSOLUTELY nothing they can do!

However after Christ has summoned Lazarus to life, Christ told His disciples to ASSIST Lazarus... to free him.

43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.