Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Thursday, March 28, 2024

Requirements for a Scriptural Baptism

Is this baptism properly administered?

Requirements for a Scriptural Baptism


Proper Administrator
The Scriptures require that the man who baptizes be an ordained teacher in the church. This point is easily confirmed by reviewing the record of the early church in the book of Acts. It was only the apostles or other ordained teachers who baptized in the New Testament.

Proper Subject
The Scriptures teach that an individual to be baptized must first repent and believe the gospel. This requires the subject to be of sufficient age to comprehend the essential elements of the gospel and agree with them. The Scriptures know nothing of baptizing infants. The subject of baptism must have an active conscience in order to give answer.

Proper Doctrine
The essential elements of the gospel that must be believed prior to baptism centre around the Lord Jesus Christ and His role as the Son of God and the only Saviour from sin. The Person of Jesus Christ is the basis of true doctrine.

Proper Mode
Baptism is an immersion of the subject completely underwater. This is done to represent (show a likeness or figure of) the burial and resurrection of Christ, which put away our sins. As everyone knows, a thing is neither buried nor planted with only a sprinkling. Baptism must provide a figure of the resurrection of Christ, which is only done by immersion.

Proper Design
Baptism does not put away sin. It is only a figure of how our sins were put away by Christ's death and resurrection. Baptism is simply an answer and testimony to God for what He did by Himself. It is the answer toward God of a conscience made good by the blood of Christ.

http://www.letgodbetrue.com/bible/baptism/requirements.php

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Michael Lim
Oh my! That's diving! No burying at all.
(diving below the surface!) 

Jorge
Proper authority

Sing
PB authority! <LOL> - to JQ, that is!
I sure hope you have absolute certainty that yours can be traced through an unbroken link of authority all the way back to Christ!

It ain't wise to be righteous over much, and shoot oneself in the foot!

Ecc 7:16 "Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?"

Julio
Mark 11:33 And they answered and said unto Jesus, We cannot tell. And Jesus answering saith unto them, Neither do I tell you by what authority I do these things.

Jorge
There was a man sent from God,whose name was John

Sing
Jorge, then, I sure hope you have absolute certainty that yours can be traced through an unbroken link of authority all the way back to John the Baptizer.

In addition, I hope there were no churches along that unbroken line that were no worse than the churches you so arrogantly dismiss as no NT church!

Jorge
Arrogantly dismiss?
And all the people that heard Him, and the Publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John.

But the Pharisees and lawyers ( ? ? ?)rejected the counsel of God againts themselves, being not baptized of him. Luke 7:29,30

Sing
Jorge, you don't get the point.
Supposing some churches along your so-called unbroken line were no better than Arminian churches which you contemptuously dismiss as no churches at all, then what happened?

OK, you may insist that there is NO such possibility, and you are indeed confident that all the churches in your so-called unbroken line of authority were like the doctrinally sound PB churches that you belong to today, I say, "God bless you for your confidence."

Jorge
They will remain as a PARA Church

Sing
If PARA churches were found along your so-called unbroken line from which you derive your authority as a church, then by your own mouth, yours is no better than a PARA church - just thinking out loud for you.

Jorge
I know you believe in truth perpetuity?

Sing
Jorge, you know what I admire about you?
You are more PB than many PBs I am acquainted with.
You are a good PB convert. I admire you for that.

Jorge
So as well in Church perpetuity who holds the truth.
If we are not new, we belong to the old, because old is better. God bless you, Sir

Sing
Thanks for your PB benediction. Thank you very much, Jorge.
I prefer the new over the old - I love reading Hebrews <LOOOOOL>

Jorge
First century was older than 1689 LOL! nyt

Sing
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL - so many PBs (old school may be) adopted that accursed (by the new school PBs???) 1689 as their own Confession of Faith - as the Fulton Confession of Faith 1900.

You aren't wise MOCKING your PB forefathers.

Jorge
Oh! you are certified PB, find your forefathers' remnants and embrace them

Jorge
You cannot deny that your doctrine is PB's doctrine

Sing
I got it from the Bible. The 1689 helped me much.

Ro 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Jorge
The Bible helps me much.

Sing
Then why do you call it PB doctrine?
I got my doctrine from the Bible. The 1689 helped me much what the Baptist fathers had believed.

Jorge
PB doctrine is Bible doctrine

Koh Han Seow
If baptism is only a figure and does not guarantee salvation, why the mode is so important?

Sing
Good question.
Baptism is a figure of the salvation ALREADY, and FREELY, and SOVEREIGNLY bestowed. And baptism by immersion CORRECTLY represents that glorious truth that the baptismal candidate has DIED, and RISEN with Christ, to newness of life.

That is the simple reason why ONLY believers are to be baptized. Infant baptism is like conferring a degree to a babe!!!

Obeying what the Bible says is important enough to me.

A figure that does not correctly represent the reality it claims to represent is, at best, misleading, at worst, it is a sham.

Craig
Is there a minimum age to baptize a believer by immersion? Are there scriptural guidelines here?

Sing
Not that I'm aware of! A believer's baptism makes that a moot point. If one is old enough to profess faith, then IMMERSION wouldn't be a problem. Having said that, even immersing a baby is not a problem either. A child is completely immersed in the amniotic fluid before birth.

Craig
What is the age of the youngest person you have baptised Sing?

Sing
16-17, I think.