Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Friday, June 20, 2025

'Can anyone be saved by a false gospel?'

The picture illustrates that the question needs fables to prop it up.


https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=3401371828551&set=a.1182086067794

Someone asked this rhetorical question:
'Can anyone be saved by a false gospel?'

In the mind of the inquirer, his rhetorical question demands a negative answer.' It is also obvious that he has eternal salvation in mind.

The question presupposes two popular fables...
- a man is saved by the gospel.
- and that salvation is eternal salvation.

What's the gospel? It is the good news of what God has done through His Son Jesus Christ to save His people with eternal salvation. Jesus Christ secured eternal redemption for His people. The gospel is the good news that God alone has saved His people through the life and death (i.e righteousness and blood, or the active obedience and passive obedience) of Christ. The gospel makes known that work of eternal salvation of the elect by God in Christ alone, and is applied to each elect personally by free grace alone. That's the gospel.

Even the purest and most pristine gospel DOES NOT SAVE. It only declares the eternal salvation that has ALREADY HAPPENED by God's grace, and the relevant hearers are called to believe the truth of their eternal salvation conveyed in the gospel.

False gospels fail to faithfully present the truth of the work of eternal salvation by Christ, and applied to each individual by God's free grace alone through the Holy Spirit.

The gospel presents faithfully the truth of the work of eternal salvation by God's free grace in Christ Jesus applied freely to each elect by the Holy Spirit.

The gospel presupposes the ALREADY finished work of eternal salvation. It declares the good news of the eternal salvation already accomplished, and applied to God's children... those already regenerated... already saved with eternal salvation!

Otherwise, there would be NO gospel! The gospel is good news of eternal salvation ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED, and APPLIED... and the recipients are called to believe the truth of it.

The gospel saves - those whom God HAS ALREADY SAVED with eternal salvation by His grace - from lies, superstitions, and traditions, ungodliness, worldliness, etc and brings them into the truth of their eternal salvation by God's free grace in Christ Jesus through the Holy Spirit... teaching them to live soberly, righteously and godly, in this present world....

That's VERY DIFFERENT from saying the gospel saves (i.e. eternal salvation) in the way so many imagine!


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Sing 
You ask good questions. People who ask good questions NORMALLY already have the answers to their questions. So why don't you tell us the answers? <looool>

Obey the gospel... believe the truth conveyed by it. Stop believing lies and falsehoods.
Many of God's children DON'T obey the gospel... they continue believing fables and fiction!

Jerry 
Right! Bro. Sing., the Scriptures itself declare the purpose of the gospel... Tim.1:9 says it is God Who saves us before the world began and verse 10 says the gospel brings life and immortality TO LIGHT... the gospel reveals the life and immortality that God has given His people...

Sing
My answer to your question:

Obey the gospel of their eternal salvation... believe the truth conveyed by the gospel concerning their eternal salvation.

Repent, and stop believing lies and falsehoods and fables and superstitions about their eternal salvation.

Sing
If one thinks (and there are very many who think so) that the parables are all about eternal salvation, then they are all about eternal salvation!

'Walking in the gospel' and living in the gospel' - not very familiar terms with me. Are they PB terminologies?

I'm familiar with these:
11 ¶ For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ,"

Sing
1Cor 9:14 - 'Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.' Live OF the gospel!

Gal 2:14 - 'But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel...'

Quite different from ''Walking in the gospel' and 'living in the gospel' Beware of sound-byte!

Robert Beavan
Could an Apostle heal another Apostle?

Sing
Could an Apostle heal himself?
I know an apostle can do something to save himself!

1Co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Robert Beavan
Leviticus 26 v 44 And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God.

Robert Cook Sr.
All who believe this should share it with those they care about, because there is bondage for God's people in lies and fables

Sing
A friendly Cook said,
"A false truth helps no one! This is something satan would want you to believe. Only the gospel of Jesus Christ can save you."
(he has deleted all his comments)
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A false truth??? Just like saying a black white!

If only the gospel of Jesus Christ can save you, please tell us how it saves you!

Robert Cook Sr.
Sing me? I re-read what every one wrote but did not see false truth in the comments? other than yours? Anyway if someone were to say that, I would understand that as a fable presented to the hearers as a truth. The gospel in the scripture is intended by our Lord to save us from fear of death and condemnation and doubt of His love and motivates us to serve Him more perfectly in a pure conscience.

Robert Cook Sr.
Bro Sing,. I need to shed my ignorance, I see my brother posted, for which I am very thankful, for his interest in this topic. Go easy, Sing

Robert Cook Sr.
I did not know responders needed to click on photo, so their comments do not show up on this page, sorry

Sing
Then it should be the Gospels..... with the uppercase 'G' ... the four Gospels - Matthew, mark, Luke and John - are historical accounts. But these historical accounts ARE ALSO profitable for doctrines... unless you deny them to be Scriptures!!!

2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Sing
Please learn to distinguish between the Gospels (upper case G and in the plural s) from the gospel (lower case g and in the singular). If you don't you will not communicate clearly... but misleadingly.

You said that Romans-Philemon is our Doctrine... plainly implying that the rest is not for doctrine.

I said the WHOLE Scriptures, including those besides Romans-Philemon, is profitable for doctrines.

Have I made myself clear? Thanks


Robert Cook Sr.

Leslie, how about false "Christian" teaching?

(Leslie has also deleted all his comments!)