Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Thursday, January 30, 2025

Whetting the Appetite (3): Surveying John Gill’s “A Body of Divinity – Doctrinal & Practical”

Dr. John Gill, a particular Baptist theologian
highly respected by his Calvinistic contemporaries
of different denominations.
  


June 22, 2022. Wednesday midweek meeting

Whetting the Appetite (3)
Surveying John Gill’s “A Body of Divinity – Doctrinal & Practical”

Book III. Of the External Works of God

Chapter 1. Of Creation In General

Chapter 2. Of The Creation Of Angels

Chapter 3. Of The Creation Of Man

Chapter 4. Of The Providence of God

Chapter 5. Of The Confirmation Of The Elect Angels, And The Fall Of The Non-Elect

Chapter 6. Of the Honour and Happiness of Man In a State of Innocency

Chapter 7. Of the Law Given to Adam, and the Covenant Made with him in his State of Innocence; in which he was the Federal Head and Representative of his Posterity

Chapter 8. Of the Sin and Fall of our First Parents

Chapter 9. Of the Nature, Aggravations, and Sad Effects Of the Sin of Man

Chapter 10. Of the Imputation of Adam’s Sin to All his Posterity

Chapter 11. Of The Corruption Of Human Nature

Chapter 12. Of Actual Sins and Transgressions

Chapter 13. Of the Punishment of Sin

Let’s take a peep at Chapter 7…

“The manner in which God governs rational creatures is by a law, as the rule of their obedience to him, and which is what we call God’s moral government of the world… And I shall endeavour to show what that law was, that it was in the form of a covenant, and that Adam was a federal head in it.”

There are 5 sections:

1. First, The law given him was both of a natural and positive kind. God, who is the Creator of all, Judge of all the earth, and King of the whole world, has a right to give what laws he pleases to his creatures, and they are bound as creatures, and by the ties of gratitude, to observe them.
- The natural law, or law of nature, given to Adam, was con-created with him, written on his heart, and engraved and imprinted in his nature from the beginning of his existence; by which he was acquainted with the will of his Maker, and directed to observe it.
- Besides, his natural law, or law of nature, given to Adam, there were others of a positive kind, which were positive institutions of God, such as man could never have known by the light of nature; but were made known by the revelation of God; such as relate to divine worship, and the manner of it; that there was a God, and that he was to be worshipped, Adam knew by the light of nature; but how, or in what manner, and with what rites and formalities he would be worshipped, this he could not know, but by divine revelation.

2. This law given to Adam, taken in its complex view, as both natural and positive, was in the form of a covenant…

a. Moreover, It may be observed, that the law given to Adam is expressly called a covenant… the terms by which the positive law given to Adam is expressed, manifestly imply a covenant; as that if he eat of the forbidden fruit, he should surely die; which implies, that if he abstained from it, he should surely live; which formally constitute a covenant; even a promise and a threatening.

b. The law given to Adam, as it was a law, sprung from the sovereignty of God, who had a right to impose a law upon him, whatsoever he thought fit; as it was a covenant, it was an act of condescension and goodness in God, to enter into it with man, his creature; he could have required obedience to his law, without promising anything on account of it; for it is what God has a prior right unto, and therefore a recompense for it cannot be claimed; if, therefore, God thinks fit, for the encouragement of obedience, to promise in covenant any good, it is all condescension, it is all kindness.

c. This covenant is by divines called by various names:

- sometimes a covenant of “friendship”, man being in friendship with God when it was made with him…
- sometimes they call it a covenant of “nature”, it being made with Adam as a natural man, and a natural head of his posterity, and promised natural blessings to him and his…
- It is also called a covenant of “innocence”; because made with man in his innocent state…
- And it sometimes has the name of the covenant of life from the promise of life in it.

3. As in all covenants there are contracting parties, so in this.

a. God is one of the parties…
- it unworthy of God to enter into a covenant with Adam; for if it was not unworthy of God to make a covenant of conservation with Noah; a covenant of circumcision with Abraham; and a covenant of royalty with David; a covenant respecting the kingdom, and the continuance of it in his family; men ina fallen state; then it could not be unworthy of God to make one with Adam in his perfect state.
- To make a covenant with Adam, was a display of His goodness to him; His covenant also flowed from His sovereignty.

b. The other contacting party was Adam; who gave a full and hearty assent to what was proposed to him. The stipulation on the part of God, was proposing and promising good, on condition of obedience.
- The obedience required of man in this covenant, was personal, perfect, and perpetual.
- It was personal; it was to be performed in his own person, and not by another for him;
- It was “perfect” obedience that was required of him, both as to parts and as to degrees; it was to be yielded to all the commandments of God, without exception, and to be performed in the most perfect manner; as to matter, all the commands of God, natural and positive, were to be observed; and as to manner, just as the Lord commanded them.
- And then this obedience was to be “perpetual”; it was not to be done for a time only, but always; life, and the continuance of it, dependedon it; otherwise, if a stop was made in it, the law condemned, and the man became accursed.

4. The law given to Adam, as it had the nature of a covenant, it contained a promise in it, and had a sanction annexed to it.

a. It contained a promise; which was a promise of life, of natural life to Adam, and of a continuation of it so long as he should observe the condition of it…
- Adam’s covenant was but a natural covenant; and which was made with a natural man.
- It was in another covenant more early than that of Adam’s, in which eternal life was promised and secured; God, that cannot lie, promised it before the world began; and this promise was put into Christ’s hands, even from all eternity; and the blessing itself was secured in him for all for whom it was designed.
- Eternal life is only through Christ as the Mediator of the covenant of grace; it comes by no other hands but his,
- If eternal life could have been by Adam’s covenant, it would have been by works; for that covenant was a covenant of works; and if by works, then not of grace.
- Life and immortality, or an immortal, eternal life, and the way to it, are only brought to light by the Gospel (2 Tim. 1:10), not by the light of nature, nor by the law of Moses; only by the Gospel of Christ.
- There is no proportion between the best works of man, even sinless obedience and eternal life.

b. The sanction of the law and covenant made with Adam, was death; “In the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die” (Gen. 2:17), which includes death corporal, spiritual or moral, and eternal.
- A corporal death; which lies in a separation of soul and body…
- A spiritual, or rather moral death seized upon him; which lies in a separation of the soul from God, and communion with Him.
- An eternal death, which lies in a separation of soul and body from God; in a loss of the divine presence, and in a sense of divine wrath.

5. Adam as the representative head of the human race

a. In this covenant Adam acted not as a private person for himself only, but asa federal head and representative of his whole posterity; and in this he was alone.
- From Adam being a figure or type of him that was to come; that is, of Christ (Rom 5:14).
- From Adam being called the first man, and the first Adam, and described as natural and earthly
- From the threatening taking place upon the sin of Adam, not on himself only, but on all his succeeding offspring.
- It was no unusual thing with God to make covenants with men, and their posterity, unborn.
- Nor have any of Adam’s posterity reason to complain of such a procedure; since if Adam had stood in his integrity, they would have partook of all the blessed consequences of his standing, and enjoyed all the happiness that he did; and therefore should not murmur.

Let it be considered, that since God in his infinite wisdom, thought proper that men should have a head and representative of them.
- Let it be observed, that what God gave to Adam, as a federal head, relating to himself and his posterity, he gave it in a way of sovereignty.

Whetting the Appetite (2): Surveying John Gill’s “A Body of Divinity – Doctrinal & Practical”

Dr. John Gill, a particular Baptist theologian
highly respected by his Calvinistic contemporaries
of different denominations. 
 

June 15, 2022. Wednesday midweek meeting

Whetting the Appetite (2)
Surveying John Gill’s “A Body of Divinity– Doctrinal & Practical”
Book 2: Of The Internal Acts And Works Of God; And Of His Decrees In General

Book 2 has 16 chapters. Let us take a peep at the first two chapters.

Chapter 1
Of The Internal Acts And Works Of God; And Of His Decrees In General
- “The acts and works of God may be distinguished into internal and external. The “external” acts and works of God, are such as are done in time, visible to us, or known by us; as creation, providence, redemption, &c. His “internal” acts and works, which will be first considered, and are what were done in eternity, are commonly distinguished into personal and essential. Personal acts are such as are peculiar to each person, and distinguish the one from the other; and which have been taken notice of already, in treating of the doctrine of the Trinity. “Essential” acts are such as are common to them all…”

a. First, The proof to be given of them, that there are decrees and purposes in God; not merely ideas of things future, but settled determinations concerning them; which may be evinced from the nature and perfections of God.

b. Secondly, The extent of the decrees and purposes of God, deserve notice and consideration: and they reach to all things that come to pass in the world, from the beginning to the end of it. The world, and all things in it, were created by and according to the will and pleasure of God (Rev. 4:11).

c. Thirdly, The properties of the purposes and decrees of God, may next be considered:
- As they are internal acts, they are immanent ones; they are in God, and remain and abide in him…
- They are eternal; as God himself is eternal, so are they…
- The decrees of God are most free; they are the free acts of his will…
- They are most wise decrees; as God is a wise Being, and does all his works in wisdom…
- They are immutable and unalterable… signified by mountains, for their immoveableness, and by mountains of brass
- The decrees of God are always effectual; they cannot be frustrated or disannulled,or become of no effect…

Chapter 2
Of The Special Decrees Of God, Relating To Rational Creatures, Angels, And Men; And Particularly Of Election
a. The election of angels
b. The elect of men to grace and glory:
- the election of Christ (the Word made flesh) as a man and mediator, God’s first and chief elect!
- the character of the elect as given to Christ
- (i) the phrases by which election is expressed in Scriptures
- (ii) by whom it is made, and in whom it is made… by God… in Christ
- (iii) the objects of election…
- (iv) the time of election…
- (v) the moving cause of election…
- (vi) the means fixed for the execution of it…
- (vii) the ends/goals settled in the decree of election, both subordinate and ultimate…
- viii) the blessings and benefits flowing from the election are many: effectual calling, justification, adoption… communion,
- (ix) the several properties of election: it’s eternal, by God’s free and sovereign grace, absolute and unconditional, complete and perfect, immutable and irrevocable, special and particular, may be known by the object of it..

Chapter 3.
Of The Decree Of Rejection, Of Some Angels, And Of Some Men

Chapter 4
Of The Eternal Union Of The Elect Of God Unto Him

Chapter 5
Of Other Eternal And Immanent Acts In God, Particularly Adoption And Justification

Chapter 6
Of The Everlasting Council Between The Three Divine Persons, Concerning The Salvation Of Men

Chapter 7
Of The Everlasting Covenant Of Grace, Between The Father, And The Son, And The Holy Spirit

Chapter 8
Of The Part Which The Father Takes In The Covenant

Chapter 9
Of The Part The Son Of God, The Second Person, Has Taken In The Covenant

Chapter 10
Of Christ, As The Covenant Head Of The Elect

Chapter 11
 Of Christ, The Mediator Of The Covenant

Chapter 12
 Of Christ, The Surety Of The Covenant

Chapter 13
Of Christ, The Testator Of The Covenant

Chapter 14
 Of The Concern The Spirit Of God Has In The Covenant Of Grace

Chapter 15
 Of The Properties Of The Covenant Of Grace

Chapter 16
Of The Complacency And Delight God Had In Himself, And The Divine Persons In Each Other, Before Any Creature Was Brought Into Being.

Learn by Asking Intelligent Questions

 

#Learn_by_Asking_Intelligent_Questions

A man messaged me:
"I want to hear more of what are true teachings of Christ and his commandments and to be saved from false teachings and other false gospel and false Christ..."

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I replied:
Your desire is highly commendable. Few want to hear or want the true teachings of Christ Jesus; many are content with some opinions of little Christ. When you want to learn the truth of Christ the Lord, no one can stop you. If you want to learn the truth, you MUST START THINKING for yourself, and start asking hard questions.

Much that is taught in churches as the gospel truth is just falsehood clothed in bible sounding words.

If you want to hear more... then hear more; no one can stop or hinder you. But you need more than hearing; you need to ask HARD QUESTIONS if you want to learn the truth of the gospel, and recognize falsehood and lies out there.

Let me give you an example: the popular teaching that justification before God is by faith alone is a plain lie and error. Why? Just ask a few simple but appropriate questions and it will become self-evident.

1. Who needs justification before God the Judge?

2. Can such a person who needs justification before God exercise faith in order to be justified by God?

3. How does God the Judge justify?

4. Who does God the Judge justify?

5. Who is able to exercise faith?

6. How does faith, a man's act of believing in Christ, justify him?

Until you learn the skill of asking appropriate questions, it is difficult to learn the truth. Addiction to soundbites is a dreadful disease; it debilitates the mental faculty.

I started to learn the truth of the gospel of grace when I was advised by the late Elder Gene Thomas. He taught me one precious thing: be self-learning by asking hard and smart questions.

May you discover the same blessings too.

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p/s another example:

Ephesians 2

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

By grace ye are saved when ye WERE dead in sins...

By grace are ye saved through faith...

Q1. Saved through whose/what faith?

Q2. What is the salvation spoken of?

Q3. When you were dead in sin, can you exercise faith?

Q4. What is the gift? Salvation or faith?

Q5. A man dead in trespasses and sins - does he need the gift of salvation or the gift of faith?

Q6. Is the gift of faith to a man dead in sins of any use to him?

Q7. What is it to be saved by grace?

Q8. What is the ground/basis of salvation?

You can probably think of more. Ask away!
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Mark Thomas
I’m thankful that Brother Gene’s ministry reached the far side of the earth and benefited you. Keep asking the hard questions! They have many lessons to teach regardless of where we are or how much we think we know. Buy the truth and sell it not.

There are preachers who offer salvation to the spiritually dead

 



Both memes are quotes are from Mr Charles Haddon Spurgeon, both wereposted on the "John Gill & friends" page here: https://www.facebook.com/14111511.../posts/1323799064711340/

Something sounds inconsistent and jarring.

I left the comment below but it has been deleted by the administrator!

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The gospel is NOT for the "DYING world"; the gospel is the good news of what God has done to save His own people, those whom He has given to Christ to save.

"If Christ has once paid the debt, the debt is paid."

Based on the payment made by Christ, the Holy Spirit, at God's appointed and approved time, effectually called each elect out of their native state of sin and death to that of grace and salvation in Jesus Christ.

The gospel of Jesus Christ is INTENDED for the QUICKENED children of God - those elect whom God has effectually called out of their native state of condemnation and death to that of justification and righteousness in Jesus Christ - to gather them into churches.

John 21
15 ¶ So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 ... Feed my sheep.
17 ... Feed my sheep.

Tell us, who can be fed by the gospel ministry; those still dead in trespasses and sins? or those already effectually called [i.e. justified, regenerated, and adopted] by God out of their native state of sin and condemnation into the state of grace and salvation?

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Mr Spurgeon was a Prince of Preachers, but I'm only a village bumpkin. Please don't skin me for my 'impudent' words.

I was once a parrot, but the merciful and gracious Lord has turned me into an inquiring student of His word.

Let me put it in the simplest way possible:

Food is necessary but ONLY for the living,

Food is necessary but only relevant for those alive.

However, there are idolatrous and superstitious who offer food to the dead;
EVEN SO, there are preachers who offer salvation to the spiritually dead.


Wednesday, January 29, 2025

l do loathe such revisionists

Thou didst free salvation bring.
Hail, Thou agonizing Saviour
REVISED AS
Hope to give and peace to bring.
Hail, O universal Savior,



 

#revisionists

l do loathe such revisionists;

Why don't they write their own hymn?

Why mess around with someone else's hymn?

How shameful!

The original hymn by John Bakewell has this:

1 Hail, Thou once-despised Jesus!
Hail, Thou Galilean King!
Thou didst suffer to release us,
Thou didst free salvation bring.
Hail, Thou agonizing Saviour,
Bearer of our sin and shame;
By Thy merits we find favour:
Life is given through Thy name.

The revisionist has perverted the above into this:

1 Hail, O once-despised Jesus!
Hail, O Galilean King!
You have suffered to release us,
Hope to give and peace to bring.
Hail, O universal Savior,
Bearer of our sin and shame;
By your merits we find favour:
Life is given through your name.

Enjoy the great hymn sung here:
https://youtu.be/WtmTetC7uak?feature=shared
Hail! Thou Once Despised Jesus
Congregational singing Metropolitan Tabernacle, London

Tune: HYFRYDOL Hail! 

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Psalm 47:7 KJV — For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding.

1 Corinthians 14:15 KJV — What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
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Psalm 47:7 KJT
For God is the King of all the earth: *sing ye praises with understanding.*

1 Corinthians 14:15 KJT
What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will *sing with the understanding also.*

Both are in the imperative mood. Acceptable worship requires singing with understanding and comprehending the truth being sung.

Thou didst free salvation bring has been revised as
Hope to give and peace to bring.

What poor and pathetic substitutes!

1. Hope and peace are a small fraction of the salvation (eternal) brought by the redemptive work of Christ for His people.

2. Eternal (free!) salvation is substituted with two temporal (conditional) blessings of that salvation.

3. "... didst... bring" - a simple past tense, completed accomplished action is replaced with the simple present tense, ongoing working of the Spirit of Christ, working in us hope and peace.

So different indeed.

Many think thee and thou are outdated English, including those whose native language is English. However, thee and thou are precise English.

'Thou' and 'thee' are precise English, they are second person singular; 'ye' and 'you' are second person plural.

The distinction is necessary for rightly dividing the word of truth. A good example is here:

John 3:7 *KJV* — Marvel not that I said unto *thee*, *Ye* must be born again.

John 3:7 *NKJV* — “Do not marvel that I said to *you* *You* must be born again.

Without the distinction, too many are misled to think that the Lord Jesus was telling Nicodemus that *he* must be born again, with the necessary implication that Nicodemus was still dead in trespasses and sins.

Jesus was telling Nicodemus, (second person singular, objective case; the singular person spoken to; therefore *thee*) a general statement, "ye must be born again", i.e. the necessity of the new birth in order to see and enter the kingdom of God.

3 ¶Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

5 ¶Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Hail, Thou agonizing Savior vs
Hail, o universal Savior

Matthew 1:21 KJT
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save *his people* from their sins.

John 6 KJT
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of *all which he hath given me* I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

John 17 KJT
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for *them which thou hast given me*; for they are thine.

Many believe in a universal Saviour that made salvation possible for all; it's up to each man to actualize it by something he can and must do.

Scriptures teach that Christ actually accomplished the eternal salvation for as many as have been given to Him by the Father, and the Holy Spirit freely applies the salvation to each one of them at God's appointed and accepted time when they were dead in trespasses and sins.

Ephesians 2 KJT
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)....
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.

Too many are messed up with this passage, maybe you too.

Take a look here:
https://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2008/01/saved-by-grace-through-faith-whose.html