Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Tuesday, December 6, 2022

God’s decree and foreknowledge

 There's nothing you can do;
God's decree and foreknowledge
need no reconciling. 

December 5, 2013
https://www.facebook.com/sing.f.lau/posts/10201105434853489

A theologian demanded: “How does one reconcile God’s decree and foreknowledge?”

A student of God's word responded: What a weird, impudent question!
Why do you even need to reconcile God's infinitely wise actions? You are assuming that they are contradictory... and need reconciling!!! What blasphemous thought, or what confusion, otherwise!
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(Brett Noll made many comments... but has deleted them all.)

Sing F Lau
Tell us what is your definition of God's foreknowledge.

Sing F Lau
Why answer your question when you can't tell me how you use the term "God's foreknowledge"? I fear your idea of God's foreknowledge is anti-biblical. And that's the reason for your question!

Your last question betrays that fable! It is an imbecilic idea that God's creatures affected God's decree. The same idea that God's activities need reconciling.

No, it is God's decrees that affected God's creatures!

Rom 8:29 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."

1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Sing F Lau
Let me spell out for you what you did not want to say:
You understand "God's foreknowledge" as God's knowledge of His creature beforehand.

The Scriptures usage of "God's foreknowledge" as God's act of setting His electing love upon His creature before time.

Your wrong understanding gives rise to your misguided rhetorical question!!!

Sing F Lau
God foreknew PERSONS... WHOM WHOM WHOM... not things or actions about them. Elementary!

Sing F Lau
You take "God's foreknowledge" as His knowing beforehand what will happen in the future and that as the basis of His predestination. That's a fable foreign to the Scriptures. The object of foreknowledge is PEOPLE, the elect.

Linda Lancaster
God knows everything, past, present and future SIng.

Sing F Lau
That's true, but that's not the point.

Did He predestinate you based on what He knew about you beforehand??? Don't be woolly! Woolliness is not a virtue!

Charles Page
What Brett is propagating is really foolish and he doesn't see it. There can be no grace from god by what he says (he is related by blood kin to John MacArthur and worships kin folk)

If you fail to distinguish a man from his actions then you have a God who loves good men and hates bad men. What is worse this idea did not proceed from God but from man! The man who devises this belief is an enemy of God. He asserts himself as sovereign over deity!

The love of God is the mind behind election. It is an unconditional election. Man is not loved because he is a saint nor a sinner but a person with nothing but a personal name. He is neither saint nor sinner. There is the fact of sin in the picture and for that reason Christ was the lamb slain from before the foundations of the world was laid.

But what Brett's family want to do is define the elect after their own likeness. They are good and God has to love good people therefore people of faith are the ones God will elect. <LOL> God really pokes fun at that argument by loving Jacob and hating Esau! Jacob by his own admission before Pharoah was a dispicable man and that is something I don't hear MacA or his Johnson saying.

Charles Page
Brett, MacArthur says this: "The Bible affirms human responsibility right alongside the doctrine of divine sovereignty. Moreover, the offer of mercy in the gospel is extended to all alike. Isaiah 55:1 and Revelation 22:17 call "whosoever will" to be … See more
Charles Page

So, MacArthur is saying they are still saved though they sin willfully and not by compulsion? That would be consistent with unconditional election!

An act of mercy would mean that he shows mercy on even the willful sinner who is elect? correct?

Charles Page
so MacA doesn't require evidence of saving faith to be elect? correct?

Charles Page
trying to do! I did it, and successfully! like a skilled provocateur!

Sing F Lau
Brett Noll is joined to his idols! <LOL>

Sing F Lau
Why don't you stick to the subject...
tell us why you need to reconcile God's decree and foreknowledge?