Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Monday, October 26, 2020

That which is Perfect

 

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October 26, 2019 

Sing, I was in a discussion on I Cor 12:13 and couldn't remember what you had said you believed what was "the perfect" to come. Can you elaborate a bit for me again?

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Let me copy and paste here from a bible study note on the subject:

2. 'That which is Perfect'
a. 'to teleion' - an adjective in its various gender - masculine (teleios), feminine (teleia), neuter (teleion) is used 18 times in the whole of NT. In all its usage, to teleion is never once used to describe Jesus Christ, or heaven, or the second coming of Christ - the common but erroneous interpretations insisted by the charismatics and some others. The plain meaning of the text excludes these baseless interpretations.

- Kindly check for yourself the 18 occurrences in these passages:  Mt 5:28 (2x), 19:21; Rm 12:2; 1Cor 2:6, 13:10, 14:20; Eph  4:13;  Phil 3:15; Col  1:28, 4:12;  Heb 5:14, 9:11; Ja 1:4 (2x), 1:25, 3:2; 1Jn 4:18.

b. 'to teleion' means "having reached its end or destination, i.e. finished, complete, perfect."

- It is used of persons, primarily of physical development, with its ethical import. eg 1Cor 2;6, 14:20.

- It is used of things, referring to attaining its completeness. eg Rm 12:2; Ja 1:4,25.

- In 1Cor 13:10, it refers "to the complete revelation of God's will and ways..." (Vine)

- At the time the epistle was written, 'that which is perfect' was only in a state of merous - only partial and incomplete. But this partial and incomplete thing was in the process of being made whole and brought to completion/completeness. Can this be a reference to Christ or heaven? Can there ever be a Christ or heaven in a partial state progressing towards completion??????? Is Christ or heaven ever in a state of progress???????

- This is a plain and simple description of the progression of the revelation of God. The revelation of God was given progressively (in clarity) and cumulatively (in quantity) until it was completed. The revelation of God was in the process of coming to perfection/completion by the completing of the Holy Scripture. Rev 22:18-

c. "we know in part and we prophesy in part" :

- before "that which is perfect has come", this is the manner of God's revelation. The complete Bible did not drop down from heaven. Nor was it given in parts through just one prophet. It was given in many parts (instalments) through many different prophets. cp Heb 1:1. So also was the NT scripture. No one had complete knowledge, each was given a part of the divine revelation. Combined together, they will finally have the complete/perfect whole.

- When apostle Paul was writing the epistle to the Corinthian believers, the OT Scripture was already completed, but the NT Scripture was being revealed. It was also given progressively and cumulatively, given in parts through various different people, Apostle Paul being one of them. All of them could only know in part and prophesy in part.

- But once "that which is perfect has come" - once we have the completed revelation of God inscripturated, then the completed revelation of God has come. That which is perfect has come. Knowing in part and prophesying in part have fulfilled their divine purposes. The partial manner of revelation, in the process of time, has brought in the completed manner of revelation - the completed Holy Scripture. cp 2Tim 3:16-17.

- When the partial has served its purpose of bringing in the completed, the partial is abolished forever.

d. This truth of the revelation of God is described elsewhere in a similar way:

- 2Tim 3:15-17: "... The Holy Scriptures... all Scripture is God-breathed... that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." The completeness of the Scripture is emphasized. 

- Ja 1:21-25: "... the implanted word... be doers of the word and not hearers only... he who looks into the teleion law of liberty..." All these refer to the revealed word of God.

* When Scripture interprets Scripture, we find that the revelation of God is described as that which is perfect and completed. When the full revelation has come with the completed Scripture, the special revelatory gifts (knowledge, tongues, and prophecy), which revealed in part is no longer needed and are abolished.

e. "And now abide faith, hope, love...": even when Paul was writing this letter to the Corinthians believers, he could see that the abolition of the special revelatory gifts mentions in verse 8 was so certain and soon afterwards. These special revelatory gifts were confined to the beginning stage of the gospel age. When all has been revealed, those revelatory means ordained by God is no longer needed, and they are abolished.

- As early as AD 57 (about the time 1Cor. was written) Paul already foretold in the plainest term that these special revelatory gifts shall cease. As far as Paul is concerned, what will abide throughout the gospel age are these three - faith, hope and love, not the special revelatory gifts.