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| Luther's justification BEFORE God by faith alone is a doctrine of the devil - the most pernicious heresy invented and perpetrated by the 16th century Reformation. Justification before God is by the righteousness of Christ alone, applied freely by God's grace alone. Faith alone in Jesus Christ is the instrument to experience the blessedness of that justified state by God's free grace. |
The Mother Harlot teaches:
Legal justification before God is by BOTH faith in Christ AND works of righteousness.
(Her daughters thought their mother church is partly correct - legal justification before God is by faith!) Therefore the,
Mother Harlot's daughters:
(amputated one of the two gangrenous limbs) declare:
Legal justification before God is by faith ALONE in Christ.
Scriptures say, and the old school baptists believed rightly:
- Legal justification before God is by the righteousness/blood/faithfulness of Christ alone;
- This legal justification by Christ alone is freely and sovereignly applied to the elect personally by the Spirit of God when an elect was in his native state of condemnation and death, incapable of believing.
- And the blessedness of this justification by God's free and sovereign grace is to be experienced through faith in Christ alone, and it is evidenced by BOTH faith in Christ and works of righteousness.
The devil has hijacked the biblical doctrine of justification by free grace!
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Sing F Lau
Justification by faith alone is a doctrine of the devil!
The most damnable and pernicious heresy that has ever been invented and perpetuated by the 16th Reformation, was the idea that somehow a condemned man could do something in order to be declared righteous before God, i.e. even by his act of believing alone (though it was a God-given faith, they even insisted) that he is JUSTIFIED by, and before God the righteous Judge.
But the Scriptures clearly declares:
"Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus..."
Two obvious truths - the basis and manner of justification are stated here:
The basis of justification: the redemption that is in Christ alone.
The manner of justification: freely by God's grace alone, without any condition.
The means to experience what God has done freely by His grace is faith.
"The just shall live by faith..."
It is the justified ones who shall live by faith. But the devil twists this plain statement to mean, "by faith alone, the condemned ones, shall be justified."
But the old school baptists, in distinction from the Harlot Church and her Protestant daughter churches, believe this: "The reason why any are justified IS NOT because they have faith; but the reason why they have faith IS because they are justified." PBA
http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2012/10/sola-fide-is-great-and-injurious-lie-of.html
Robert
Sing, Justification? A making right or declaring right?Sing F Lau
Please explain your question, thanks!
Ronald
The order given by written word of God is: Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Another order of words given by Scriptures: Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Observe carefully guys: "being justified by faith" "the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus"
Sing F Lau
Ronald, tell us what you intended to say by those passages.
Otherwise it is nothing more than sound bytes!
1. IT IS "being justified freely by HIS GRACE," and NOT "being justified by faith."
2. And if you want to speak of ORDER, Rom 3:24 is LOGICALLY and CHRONOLOGICAL before Rom 5:1. And they are speaking of the different aspects of justification!!!
3. God is the "the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus."
The PLAIN meaning of this is: The one believing in Jesus Christ DOES SO because he HAS BEEN justified by God, i.e. God is his justifier. An unjustified man is a man under the condemnation of death STILL, and CAN'T possibly believe in order to be justified by God.
For example, God is the giver of life to him who eats bananas. This cannot be understood to mean that a dead man eats bananas and he is given life by God.
Is that clear!
Ronald
Declaration of justification by God not happening in eternity but in time after man believes by the God given faith to the elect.
Sing F Lau
Declaration of justification by God happens in time when a man is still under the native state of condemnation of death.A believing man needs no further justification before God. His believing evidences his justified state. God justifies the UNGODLY, one who is still under condemnation of death.
It is the just who shall live by faith... living by faith EVIDENCES the justified states.
Is that clear! No shibboleth please. Think before you write further!
Sing F Lau
Ronald, read this short piece...
http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/...
Robert
We were made right by Jesus Christ alone Hebrews 10:14, we are declared Justified by His resurrection Romans 4:25, we experience justification in our minds by obeying the Gospel James 2:21. This is my understanding and I am very thankful for it!
Julius S
There are many types of justification. I agree with you Bro Robert.
Robert
Bro. sing i read your article I find it faithful!
Sing F Lau
Robert, you have stated ONLY TWO aspects of justification:
- the LEGAL aspect and the PRACTICAL aspect.
- where are the rest of the MANY types Julius indicated?
Robert
Please refine your question or edify the ignorant, please.
Mikal
Amen! I know we have had some differences on some things before, but I fully agree with your statement and the irony of Luther's quote.
Julius
Sing,
I would say that you are right with the two main divisions. Under the
practical division there a few subcategories. That is the many I was
referring to. I am not studied enough to comment whether there is more
than two main divisions. When the reformers
use the term "by faith" they mean by man's faith in Christ. They would
agree that God put the faith in the man to begin with. I would caution
speaking about all reformed minded folks as if they all agree on
everything the same. My experience is that even among brethren who
express an interest in a label or creed there are varying degrees to
which they disagree with each other. All Pbs are certainly not in
agreement with many issues. When the bible speaks of being justified by
faith sometimes I see "our faith" practical and other times it is "His
Faith". So along with righteousness being divided according to the
context the word "faith" also needs to be divided. People may quote the
biblical definition of faith as being the substance of things hoped for
the evidence of things not seen. Then they may conclude that God doesn't
have faith because he sees everything. Then they may quote one faith
and one baptism and conclude that there is only one kind of faith and
one type of baptism. The fact is there are many faiths in the scriptures
and many baptisms. The reformers could very well be right if they
changed their terminology to reflect "which faith" they are speaking
about. The problem is they make no such distinction. Likewise when we
argue without clearly maki g a distinction ourselves we seem just as
confusing to them. In other words if we have not clearly looked at all
of the justifications and faiths we are not making any sense to those we
are trying to convince. Why? Because they only know of one way of
understanding and have not been introduced to anything else. Likewise
our argument if not clearly taught and the divisions shown we are not
making any headway In converting them to truth. We end up looking just
as bull headed to them as they do to us.
Sing F Lau
Robert, here are FOUR distinct aspects of justification, as I understand it (of course, it is redundant to say as "I understand it", that's understood
i. God decreed to justify His elect.
ii. Jesus Christ legally justified His people at the cross.
iii. God vitally justifies each elect personally at effectual calling out of his native state of sin and death to that of salvation. What was LEGAL now become personal and vital to an elect.
iv. A child of God is justified by his act of believing in the Lord Jesus Christ.
So there is the decretal (eternal), legal, vital, and practical... and the final aspect on the judgment day.
I understand you as stating the ii and the iv aspects above when you said:
"We were made right by Jesus Christ alone Hebrews 10:14, we are declared Justified by His resurrection Romans 4:25, we experience justification in our minds by obeying the Gospel James 2:21."
Sing F Lau
Julius, if one needs to be so careful as to qualify this and disclaim that in order to speak his mind, he might as well keep quiet! A man is not expected to take care of, and hedge against all possible scruples of others when he speaks his mind. When the scruples are raised, then they can be dealt with one by one, if they are significant and worthy of time!
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Sing F Lau
The most damnable and pernicious heresy that has ever been invented by the Reformation, was the idea that somehow a condemned man could JUSTIFY himself before God the righteous Judge by his faith.
Justification by faith alone is a doctrine of the devil!
Things New and Old: Sola fide is a great and injurious lie of the devil!
Daniel H Chew
WOW! I don't think I have ever seen a more blatant rejection of the Gospel. Presumably Sing Lau thinks he can justifies himself by his works
[This is a pathetic way of engaging in a discussion!!! sing]
Sing F Lau
Daniel, both of your statements are quite wrong.
If you wish to know what is the gospel I embrace, take a look here:
http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2013/10/whats-gospel-to-you.html
And if you want to know how I am justified before God, see here:
I'm justified by God's free grace [the manner of my justification] ALONE based on the righteousness of Jesus Christ ALONE [the basis of my justification]
http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2011/12/massive-theological-blunder-by-reformed.html
Enjoy yourself. I won't have access to computer until midnight.
Daniel H Chew
Denying the instrumentality of faith for justification, as you have done, is heresy still. It is contrary to the Reformed tradition, which declares:
Westminster Short Catechism
Q. 33. What is justification?
A. Justification is an act of God’s free grace, wherein he pardoneth all our sins, and accepteth us as righteous in His sight, only for the righteousness of Christ imputed to us, and received by faith alone
Q. 85. What doth God require of us, that we may escape his wrath and curse, due to us for sin?
A. To escape the wrath and curse of God, due to us for sin, God requireth of us faith in Jesus Christ, repentance unto life, with the diligent use of all the outward means whereby Christ communicateth to us the benefits of redemption.
Westminster Larger Catechism:
Q. 73. How doth faith justify a sinner in the sight of God?
A. Faith justifies a sinner in the sight of God, not because of those other graces which do always accompany it, or of good works that are the fruits of it, nor as if the grace of faith, or any act thereof, were imputed to him for his justification; but only as it is an instrument by which he receiveth and applieth Christ and his righteousness.
Daniel H Chew
If faith is not needed for justification, then by logical deduction it means that a person can be justified apart from faith. Therefore, a person does not need to have faith in Christ and still can be saved. That person can be a pagan all his life, yet because of God's *grace*, that person is saved.
Daniel H Chew
Sola gratia sola fide articulus stantits et candentis ecclesiae. Non credentibus in hanc veritatem non salvi sunt.
Stan Sukhwant
The premises of most religion is that god makes defective products, ie, everyone is born a sinner & needs to redeem himself , this very notion has caused countless of people to dubt themselves & jus as many to take advantage of them to cleanse their sins ..........Damm, I should hv become a pastor.
Sing F Lau
Daniel, so it is no longer Scriptures ALONE? Sola Scriptura is just a shibboleth, right?
It is by Reformed TRADITIONS!!!
OK since you appealed to the WCF, let me quote the WCF 11.1 for you.
"Those whom God effectually calleth, he also freely justifieth: not by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins, and by accounting and accepting their persons as righteous; not for any thing wrought in them, or done by them, but for Christ's sake alone; not by imputing faith itself, the act of believing, or any other evangelical obedience to them, as their righteousness; but by imputing the obedience and satisfaction of Christ unto them, they receiving and resting on him and his righteousness by faith; which faith they have not of themselves, it is the gift of God."
Isn't it so clear that faith PLAYS NO ROLE whatsoever in God's act of justifying the condemned sinner.
Do you see the three sets of "NOT BY/FOR.... BUT BY/FOR"?
i. "NOT BY not by infusing righteousness..."
ii. "NOT FOR any thing wrought in them... " - faith is a grace wrought in them, is it not??? Believing is an act done by them, is it not?
iii. "NOT BY imputing faith itself, the act of believing..."
Isn't it made EXPLICITLY clear that faith, the act of believing, is COMPLETELY excluded in God's free and gracious act of justifying a condemned sinner?
That gracious act of God in justifying the condemned sinner FREELY - SOMETHING ALREADY COMPLETED - is then received by faith. Faith receives and rests on Christ and His righteousness, the basis of his free grace justification by God.
Do you even understand what is plainly stated???
Take off your colored glasses lah!!!
Sing F Lau
Saying a few words in Latin may impress some people!!! Thanks.
Sing F Lau
"If faith is not needed for justification, then by logical deduction it means that a person can be justified apart from faith. Therefore, a person does not need to have faith in Christ and still can be saved. That person can be a pagan all his life, yet because of God's *grace*, that person is saved..."
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It is precisely that a man is justified FREELY by God's grace that it is the gospel!!!
To be justified by faith... a man
- must have the mental capacity to hear and comprehend, and believe...
- must have the opportunity to hear the gospel...
- must have a human preacher to preach the gospel, and preach faithfully...
You can have that - a man's justification before God is dependent and conditioned upon those many human factors!
I thank God for the gospel of free grace... He justifies the condemned FREELY by His grace... without any man meeting any condition!!!
Think for minute, if you are thinking at all, and not just regurgitating what you have been fed with. An un-justified man is a man still in the state of condemnation, a man without the righteousness of Jesus Christ accounted to him, therefore still under the condemnation of death.
The reformed people think such a person can believe in order for God to justify him!
The reformed people also think God give the gift of faith to one still under the condemnation of death so that he may utilize that gift and be justified by God!
Are you even thinking? Do some thinking... and stop regurgitating reformed shibboleth!
Sing F Lau
The premises of most religion is that god makes defective products, ie, everyone is born a sinner & needs to redem himself , this very notion has caused countless of people to dubt themselves & jus as many to take advantage of them to cleanse their sins ..........Damm, I should hv become a pastor
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Stan, you are grievously wrong on many counts:
1. In Christianity, God made no defective products.
- Gen 1:31 ¶ And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
- Sinners are self-made... through their disobedience.
2. In Christianity, it is God Himself who redeems sinners freely.
- "Salvation is of the LORD."
- In man-made religions, sinners need to redeem themselves!!!
3. In Christianity, there is no doubt in the salvation provided by God in Jesus Christ.
- Christ has accomplished the redemption of His people. The redeemed are called to believe the truth of their redemption.
4. If you are not called by Jesus Christ, you will be a good hireling, not a pastor of His church!
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