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| Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD... |
Ac 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
Ac 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
Ac 18:19 And he came to Ephesus, and left them there: but he himself entered into the synagogue, and reasoned with the Jews.
I received this c.c. mail in my inbox, addressed to a Mawrence by a Divad Theo.
Bro. Mawrence,
My belief is GOD the ALMIGHTY CREATOR WHO create "heaven and earth" and mankind is the same yesterday, today and thereafter. GOD create every race on earth and every human being ultimately if not subconsciously reconise their Creator, except the atheists.
Of course GOD ultimately revealed to mankind through the PERSON of the SON and thereafter, the PERSON of the HOLY SPIRIT in the BIBLE. GOD create every being and GOD is not exclusive to the Jews nor the Body of CHRIST. When JESUS, SON of GOD proclaims HE is the truth , the life , and that whosoever believeth in HIM (and follow HIM) will have eternal life, JESUS as the second PERSON of GOD the FATHER refers not exclusively to the doctrines of the Christian faith alone, nor to Jews, nor to the Muslims, but to GOD's laws given to man in every race, throughout the creation of HIS world.
JESUS came for every living human being to turn them back to the ways of the FATHER-GOD, called by different names in different race and historical time-frame for there is ONLY ONE CREATOR.
GOD's LAWS of GOODNESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS are INCLUSIVE AND UNIVERSAL.
As a follower of JESUS CHRIST, SON of GOD, the difference as i tell peoples of other faiths is that:
1) I have this personal relationship with THE FATHER through THE SON,
2) I have the power ot THE HOLY SPIRIT of GOD in me- promised in John 14:26,
and
3) Assurance of salvation through the redemptive blood of JESUS, ( the analogy of having the special rights of passing through the Customs "green lane" through relationship with the SON of GOD).
JESUS LAST GREAT COMMANDMENT is that i tell the world who HE really is, SON of GOD, sent by THE FATHER for tha salvation of ALL GOD's creations, baptising them in the NAME of THE FATHER, THE SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Ultimately, judgement belongs to GOD the CREATOR.
HALLELUJAH!
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I responded to Divad's mail above:
Dear Brother Divad,
Below, kindly see some comments to some erroneous ideas expressed in your mail above...
James 5:19-20 "Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."
"Who hath ears to hear, let him hear!"
See red comments within your post...
sing
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My belief is GOD the ALMIGHTY CREATOR WHO create "heaven and earth" and mankind is the same yesterday, today and thereafter. GOD create every race on earth and every human being ultimately if not subconsciously reconise their Creator, except the atheists.
## Mankind is NOT "the same yesterday, today and thereafter."
This statement is a serious error.
Yesterday, man was VERY GOOD. Ge 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Today, after the fall, man is dead in trespasses and sins. Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Thereafter: without eternal redemption freely bestowed by God in Jesus Christ, it is lake of fire.
ONLY "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever." Heb 13:8
Of course GOD ultimately revealed to mankind through the PERSON of the SON and thereafter, the PERSON of the HOLY SPIRIT in the BIBLE. GOD create every being and GOD is not exclusive to the Jews nor the Body of CHRIST. When JESUS, SON of GOD proclaims HE is the truth , the life , and that whosoever believeth in HIM (and follow HIM) will have eternal life, JESUS as the second PERSON of GOD the FATHER refers not exclusively to the doctrines of the Christian faith alone, nor to Jews, nor to the Muslims, but to GOD's laws given to man in every race, throughout the creation of HIS world.
## GOD ultimately revealed to HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE in all the ethnic groups, not mankind, through the PERSON of the SON. You are entertaining UNIVERSALISTIC notions.
Heb 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Note: the "unto the FATHERS... unto US... by His Son."
Serious error here:
"... whosoever believeth in HIM (and follow HIM) will have eternal life..."
This is an offer of salvation to those who are dead in trespasses and sin... that if they believe HIM (and follow HIM), they WILL have eternal life. I challenge you to find one shred of proof for this SATANIC life, and NONSENSE!
The Scriptures declares:
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
These verses are MAKING A DECLARATION OF FACTS - the believing ones HAVE/POSSESS eternal life. They believe because they have eternal life. They believe NOT in order to get eternal life.... for the simple reason that those WITHOUT eternal life by God's free gift are INCAPABLE of believing, being dead in trespasses and sins and in enmity against God! These verses are not offering eternal life to the dead in trespasses and sins, that if they believe in Jesus Christ, they WILL get eternal life.
If I say to you, "whoever eats has life," would you understand me as making an offer to the dead, that if the dead will eat, they will have life? Or would you understand me as making a statement of truth about the eating ones, i.e. they have life??? Common sense, Brother!!!
JESUS came for every living human being to turn them back to the ways of the FATHER-GOD, called by different names in different race and historical time-frame for there is ONLY ONE CREATOR.
## This is another lie!
Jesus came and give Himself for His people, those whom God the Father gave to Him....
John 17:1 ¶ These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
John 6:39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Jesus said he came came to do His Father's will, not the imaginations of man, like yours above!
GOD's LAWS of GOODNESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS are INCLUSIVE AND UNIVERSAL.
## Inclusive only in the sense that God has His CHOSEN people in every ethnic group of every religious background.
Re 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.
Yes, God has His children among the MUSLIMS, Buddhists, Taoists, Monkeyists, Animists, etc, etc. The gospel of Jesus Christ is the divinely appointed means to CONVERT them to the truth of their salvation.
As a follower of JESUS CHRIST, SON of GOD, the difference as i tell peoples of other faiths is that:
1) I have this personal relationship with THE FATHER through THE SON,
2) I have the power ot THE HOLY SPIRIT of GOD in me- promised in John 14:26,
and
3) Assurance of salvation through the redemptive blood of JESUS, ( the analogy of having the special rights of passing through the Customs "green lane" through relationship with the SON of GOD).
JESUS LAST GREAT COMMANDMENT is that i tell the world who HE really is, SON of GOD, sent by THE FATHER for tha salvation of ALL GOD's creations, baptising them in the NAME of THE FATHER, THE SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT.
## God the Father sent His Son to save all those whom He has given to Jesus Christ... AS MANY AS... i.e. not one more and not one less. That's Christ's own word. Be careful of man's imagination. Jesus came to do His Father's will... not the fictions and fables of modern preachers.
Concerning Christ's Great Commandment, take a peep here:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10200745534256199&set=a.10200745533176172.1073742147.1097484914&type=1&theater
and here http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2010/06/great-commission-or-grand-delusion.html
## Ultimately, eternal salvation is of the Lord God Jehovah, the covenant keeping God. Amen.
your little brother in Christ.
sing / penang
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Dear Bro. Sing,
Thanks for your points for which I respect. I do not dispute them nor change my own understanding of what i believe in.
We trust it to our Sovereign LORD and GOD, YAHWEY-ELOHIM, SHANGDI, ALLAH, WHO alone has the truth as CREATOR. HE will know the fruits of our spirit and judge us accordingly, irrespective of what we proclaim.
Shalom,
divad.
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Conclusion:
Looooooose religious shibboleths abound, and men are not interested to get their beliefs in line with the truth of God, who alone has the truth as CREATOR. On the one hand, Divad respects the points raised, points which he would not dispute, points which show his beliefs are contrary to the truth of God the CREATOR...
Some loooooose religious shibboleths are much preferred to the precious truth of God the Creator. Such is the prevailing spirit in christendom
Apostle Paul did warn pastor Timothy:
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
So, I'm not surprised at all. Such is to be expected!
Looooooose religious shibboleths abound, and men are not interested to get their beliefs in line with the truth of God, who alone has the truth as CREATOR. On the one hand, Divad respects the points raised, points which he would not dispute, points which show his beliefs are contrary to the truth of God the CREATOR...
Some loooooose religious shibboleths are much preferred to the precious truth of God the Creator. Such is the prevailing spirit in christendom
Apostle Paul did warn pastor Timothy:
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
So, I'm not surprised at all. Such is to be expected!
