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Prejudice
"The most difficult
subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any
idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most
intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a
shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him." - Leo Tolstoy
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Sing F Lau
It
is impossible to teach seemingly intelligent men - who have been taught and
firmly believe that dead men must eat and breathe in order to have life - the
most basic and obvious fact that life itself must precede the activities of
that life!
It
is impossible to teach so many preachers of God's word that the gospel ministry
- the means ordained by God, and commanded to be employed by His servants (so
forget about all the glittering gimmicks and psychological tricks) for the
instruction, nourishment, and edification of His children - DOES NOT play any
role in the begetting of life in those dead condemned alien sinners.
It
is the means ordained by Christ for the conversion, instruction, nourishment
and edification of those whom God Himself has FREELY and sovereignly begotten!
- "which WERE born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the
will of man, but of God."
When
the gospel ministry is brought to them, they WERE ALREADY born of God. Those
deluded preachers who think their preaching is instrumental in the regeneration
of dead sinners, they ALWAYS arrive at the scene TOO LATE!
Those
who will hear them and believe their message WERE - WERE - WERE ALREADY BORN of
God, BEFORE they have arrived at the scene, WITHOUT the will of the flesh of
the one regenerated, WITHOUT the will of NO human preachers... BUT SOLELY and
WHOLLY and FREELY by the holy and sovereign will of God.
Adam Wells
Note here that those "deluded
preachers" using "psychological tricks" that Sing refers to
above were the likes of Spurgeon, Baxter, Whitefield, Wesley and Paul the
apostle!
Sing F Lau
Those are your words, not mine.
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
Don't try reading my mind... stick to
what I have written in black and white. Save yourself some unnecessary
embarrassment <GRIN>
The men you mentioned were furthest
from my mind. Charles Finney and all his followers and imitators were.
The fact that you would put Whitefield side by side with Wesley is indicative of your ignorance about the great doctrinal difference between them. Just stating a plain fact, and being honest with you.
Sing F Lau
Adam, those men you mentioned most
certainly did believe in preaching the word of God - they did not resort to
glittering gimmicks and psychological tricks... Though it is most certain that
they do not all preach the same gospel. Don't know if you realize this plain
fact!
So, even if you want to twist and misrepresent my words, it is plain to see that your effort is most pathetic!
Sing F Lau
But that biblical concept is so
REPULSIVE to so many... preachers as well as believers... despite their
vehement denial... but their synergistic doctrines necessarily usurp some glory
of God unto themselves... even though they too would deny this shameless
consequent!
So many preachers believe that by their preaching that God regenerates the dead... and so many believers so sincerely believe that it was their hearing and believing that they were given eternal life!
Sing F Lau
There were God's children among the
Jews in the days of Jesus Christ who rejected Him EVEN THOUGH they were truly
and earnestly waiting for the promised Messiah!
What is the simple explanation?
These Jews had conceived in their minds
that the Messiah promised to them was going to be a political/
militaristic Messiah to deliver them
from the oppression and domination of the Romans.
Their mind was firmly set upon such a
Messiah... hoping for a repeat of something accomplished by Moses for the
Israelites in Egypt - they even had a biblical model for their false belief!
Because they were already firmly
persuaded that they knew the true nature of the coming Messiah, so when the
promised Messiah was present in their very midst, with the most compelling
evidence, YET they rejected him, and had him murdered instead, BECAUSE the true
Messiah did not fit their own IMAGINATION!
Their fables did not fit the sound
doctrines, so they rejected the sound doctrines of the gospel.
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." Apostle Paul's warning to Timothy and all NT pastors and teachers.
Adam Wells
Sing, are you trying to run from what
you said on my post or are you saying that all that you wrote had nothing to do
with the quote from Spurgeon? If so, why did you say it... as I said, what is
your point?
Do you honestly think I am unaware of the theological differences between Whitefield/Wesley?
Sing F Lau
Adam, you so easily mix up things. No,
I am not running away from anything! Read again, and see where you have messed
up things again!
Impersonal communication through
written words is most certainly not very helpful.
I was dealing with your point of 'go
and preach' - your belief that 'go and preached' has anything to do with
eternal salvation, to bring about eternal life to a dead condemned man! And
that seems [sic] to be the point of Spurgeon, as though his ministry is able to
save men from eternal hell! That becomes possible because he lost grip of a
precious truth...
The only thing that I wrote has
anything to do with Spurgeon is this: Spurgeon is most certainly losing grip of
the clear distinction between eternal salvation WITHOUT means and temporal
salvation with means - a truth that was expressed clearly and plainly by his
predecessors like Benjamin Keach, John Gill and many others early particular
baptists. But of course, I did not state that in black and white... but you
imagined and concluded in the most perverse way!
Slowly, people began to think of the
gospel ministry as the means of regeneration... instead of the means of
nourishing God's children. See the radical movement away from the truth...
that's the natural tendency.
Your putting the two Ws side by side
most certainly is indicative [SIC] of something, and leads me to conclude in a
particular way! At least I don't conclude out of thin air!
