From:
sing
Date:
Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:51:44 +0800
To: Ipoh East Church - Loh, Tan, Lee
Cc:
Edmund
Subject:
Where is it held today? Don Fortner - (US)
Dear
Brother Lee,
You
asked the following (and I am mighty glad you had asked...)
<<Maybe
I can ask, historically and in today's context where does this view come from
and where is it held today?>>
I wrote to find out from Don Fortner - Pastor of Grace Baptist Church of Danville, KY - a non Primitive Baptist Church. His website is <www.donfortner.com>
From:
sing
Date:
Mon, 29 Aug 2005 23:03:44 +0800
To:
Don Fortner
Subject:
Where is it held today?
Dear
Brother Don,
Please
permit me to make an inquiry. I visited your website and noted the churches
listed in the Links. Do they all hold to the same view on justification and
faith as expressed in your article 'What Does It Mean To Be Reformed?' - i.e.
Faith in Christ is the result, not the condition of justification. I believe
this is the teaching of the Scriptures, but I am facing great opposition in
this corner of the Lord's vineyard.
I asked because a brother inquired what churches and groups of churches are there - historically, and at present - that hold to that view of justification. At least I know that Grace Baptist Church of Danville does.
Are there other groups of churches that hold to this biblical view of justification?
I would be very grateful for some information on this.
sing
far
east.
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From:
Don Fortner
Reply-To:
"Don Fortner"
Date:
Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:30:46 -0400
To:
"sing"
Subject:
Where is it held today?
Bro.
Sing,
It
is difficult to say what a "group" believes, because various
individuals
within
the group may differ greatly, though holding to the same creed. But the English Strict and Particular Baptist
(and others) historically understood and
taught that faith is the result (not the instrumental cause) of justification
in Christ.
So,
too, did...
John
Gill
John
Brine
John
Owen
Thomas
Manton
Augustus
Toplady
John
Bunyan
C.
H. Spurgeon
J.
P. Boyce
Jonathan
Edwards
George
Whitefield
William
Gadsby
William
Huntington
John
L. Dagg
And a host of others.
Where is the church you pastor? Tell me a little about yourself.
Don
Reply
to don@donfortner.com
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From:
sing
Date:
Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:12:46 +0800
To:
Don & Shelby Fortner
Subject:
Where is it held today?
Brother
Don,
Thank
you for affirming that part of my inquiry. I did read in your tract this
statement, 'When you lay this tract down, I want you to know precisely why we
refuse to practice these things, believe them, or participate in any way with
those who do.' So, I expected the answer, but just want to make sure.
Are there other baptist churches or groups of baptist churches that hold to the same biblical doctrine of justification - historically, and today?
I know you are very busy, but please spare a few moments to help me with my inquiry.
sing
Sungai
Dua Church (1689 Free Grace Baptist)
Penang,
Malaysia
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on 30.08.05 7:57 AM, Don Fortner at don@donfortner.com wrote:
Bro.
Sing,
So
far as I know (and I think I do) all the churches and pastors linked to
www.donfortner.com
fully believe and teach the doctrine of Holy Scripture concerning
justification.
Don