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Weird ideas exchanged, touching on:
Weird ideas exchanged, touching on:
Universal love, particular atonement, equal
chance, assumptions, etc.
Read and judge for yourself!!! Where are you
in these matters?
Sing
God the Creator loves His creatures in the
covenant of creation.
God the Redeemer loves His chosen people in
the covenant of redemption.
That's plain and simple enough.
Berf
Perhaps, some of you will say that I am
"reading too much into it," but I think 2 Peter 3:9 implies the idea
that God loves everyone equally.
[plainly a silly notion: did God love those who have gone to hell equally as those who have gone to heaven? - sing]
[plainly a silly notion: did God love those who have gone to hell equally as those who have gone to heaven? - sing]
Cook
"us-ward" who is the letter written
to?
Sing
Usward...
1:1 ¶ Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle
of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through
the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you
through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
3 According as his divine power hath given
unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge
of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great
and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine
nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
Cook
"like precious faith" how beautiful
and powerful.
Sing
To Usward...
- that have obtained like precious faith with
us...
- that have been given all things that
pertain unto life and godliness...
- that are given exceeding great and precious
promises...
- that are partakers of divine nature...
- that have escaped the corruption that is in
the world through lust.
Nathan
So you're saying that only those that have
faith in Christ are loved by God. What about the thousands and thousands of
people who lived without ever hearing the name Jesus Christ? I believe that a
just God gives each of His children an equal chance of receiving salvation,
whether it's during this life or in the spirit world.
Sing
God DOES NOT give chance... much less equal
chance of receiving salvation. If He gives chance, then no one will be saved.
Chance is redundant to sinner dead in trespasses and sins.
God purposed salvation for His people.
Christ accomplished that same salvation for
the same people.
The Spirit of God and Christ applies that
salvation to each individual personally while they were dead in trespasses and
sins.
These then are able to believe because the
faith is worked in them by the indwelling Spirit.
Salvation is freely and sovereignly applied
to each of God's chosen people. This salvation bestowed freely by God's grace
NEGATES the need and place of chance in the matter of salvation.
Berf
On what do you base your assumption,
Sing??.......
Sing
Berf, which one do you consider is an assumption, and why? Thanks.
Berf
Everything we think or say about God is an assumption........
Sing
There is only ONE thing I assume when I speak
of God and things concerning Him - that is - He HAS SPOKEN, and Has PRESERVED
what He has spoken, and what He has spoken can be known and understood by those
whom He has spoken to. Without that assumption, we are indeed speaking like
presumptuous fools.
2Tim 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of
God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect,
throughly furnished unto all good works.
Berf
And assumptions are based upon personal
beliefs and preconceptions.....
Sing
I will leave you to speak your assumptions.
I will stick to what God has said, and
preserved in the Scriptures... and based my "assumptions" on that
sure foundation.
I have no hope of knowing God and His will
apart from the Scriptures.
Thanks for sharing your assumptions. Thanks
again.
