Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Wednesday, April 9, 2025

The First Resurrection



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Sir, how would you interpret that John saw "the souls of them that were beheaded" in v4 and "first resurrection" in v5 of Rev 20?

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The 3-verse paragraph read thus:
4 ¶And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

On the first resurrection, kindly peruse this article:
https://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-first-resurrection-what-and-who.html

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I paste two articles below:
1. What is the difference between the first resurrection and the second resurrection? https://www.compellingtruth.org/resurrection-first-second...

2. The First and Second Resurrection by Dennis Johnson https://learn.ligonier.org/.../first-and-second-resurrection

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Make your own choice of what to believe.
You asked me a question, and I have expressed my understanding. 😊

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Mr Kenny preached it as REGENERATION

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If you disagree with his view, lodge a complaint with his Master. There is no need to report to me.

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Sir, then going by your interpretation of Rev 20:5, there are resurrected people (with full human bodies) living in heaven together with Christ now?

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Think for yourself - where are those who took part in the first resurrection?  Where did John see them?

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The thrones are in heaven and those in the 1st Resurrection reigned with Christ. So it does seem to imply that these people are living in heaven

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How long do they reign with Christ?
What marks the beginning and end of that period?
Aren't all these plainly stated?
No deep study; just read the Scriptures with a good dose of common sense.

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But you have previously said that there is no one in heaven now (except God n Christ).

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You most likely misheard.
Show me where I said what you have imagined.
I did say no man is in heaven except the resurrected ones. Before resurrection, it's either the temporal paradise or hell. After resurrection, it's the eternal heaven or lake of fire.
Regeneration is the quickening of the spiritually dead; resurrection is the raising of the physically dead. Words have a specific meaning.

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Lazy to search for it. And you have changed your hp. I have to dig it from the old hp messages. Lazy

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Genesis 5:24 KJT
"And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.”
Where did God take Enoch to?

2 Kings 2:11 KJT
"And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven."

Where did God take Elijah to?

Both Enoch and Elijah didn't experience death. So, they were NOT resurrected. But what happened to them? They were changed and glorified to enter heaven. 

1Cor 15 KJT
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The dead shall be raised (resurrected), and those still living shall be changed. 

We need to engage our minds when we read the Scriptures.