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| Life precedes its activities; even so, eternal salvation by grace precedes the activities of temporal salvation. |
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The
sinner that "flies" to Christ is no less a superman than a sinner
that "decides" for Christ!
A
sinner that can "fly" to Christ is not only very far from utter
helplessness and despair, but also makes a great decision to "fly"!
Deciding
and flying (in the spiritual realm) are activities of those whom God has
effectually called out of their native state of sin and death and condemnation
in Adam to that of righteousness and eternal life and justification in Christ.
What
are your thoughts?
p/s
I spent two years at the London Theological Seminary (1988-90), supported
through the 'Lloyd-Jones Memorial Fund'. It was a good exposure.
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Dan
This
sort of saying is popular among the Banner of Truth / neo-reformed but to my
way of thinking it's just lofty rhetoric that doesn't really move the needle of
understanding. If someone is helpless and in despair and they go to Christ as a
result, did they not "decide" to do so based on their present
circumstances? Does rebranding someone's decision to go to Christ as
"flying" change any of that. No, not one bit. But it does gain some
theological street-cred from the garden variety evangelical.
For
a real eye-opener, DMLJ fans should read his teaching on Immediate Holy Spirit
regeneration. While I don't endorse his every expression of the matter, he is
far closer to what I believe than any modern-day, DMLJ-quoting Calvinist that
I've encountered.
https://www.monergism.com/.../sdg/effectualregeneration.html
MONERGISM.COM
Effectual
Calling and Regeneration by D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones
Sing
Dan
Samons Thank you. I always enjoy your helpful comments. Thank you.
Dan
Sing - thanks for the kind words. I feel the same about your posts, brother
Lau.
Reggie
Dan
Samons you took the words outta my mouth brother! This type of rhetoric still
exists amongst this “neo-reformed” group of young believers….
Reggie
Sing: yes, bro… what he said… I swear! I was thinking this same thing… and
hey.. I love these reform guys! Love em all! But, just as the neo-Pentecostal
Christians are carried away with a wind of doctrine(tongues), so are these
guys…. stuck at a place they can’t seem to recover from…. Knee jerk reaction to
an arminian view of soteriology…
Dan
Reggie- There'a a lot of "one-liner-ism" in evangelicalism today. I
love a good one-liner, but flashy rhetoric does not a good one-liner make, IMO.
In many instances, one-liners are a tale full of sound and fury... signifying
nothing.
Lloyd
Wilkinson
I’ve
found that you can’t put all Reformed believers and theologians in one basket
any more than you can do the same with Primitive Baptists. It often takes
sitting down with individuals and carefully discussing and dividing these
doctrines with a scalpel to get a good understanding of exactly what someone
believes. Watching some of R.C. Sproul’s YouTube videos a few years ago, I was
surprised to see in his TULIP series that he wrote “Perseverance” on the
blackboard and then drew a line through it and wrote “Preservation” under it,
saying that “perseverance” implied that you had to do something to keep your
salvation. And “Preservation” is a better way to state the security we have in
our salvation. (I’m paraphrasing). Many reformed believers would not make this
distinction.
