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| Is a spiritual mind an intrinsic fruit of regeneration? |
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December 9, 2014
Question:
Do we have a spiritual mind through regeneration or do we develop
a spiritual mind beginning at the conversion by the hearing, and believing of
the gospel of Jesus Christ?
Is a spiritual mind an intrinsic fruit of regeneration?
What do you think?
An answer: A spiritual mind is the mind of a child of God that is
BEING renewed and transformed by and through the ministry of the word of truth.
A child of God has spiritual life through the immediate
regeneration by the Spirit of God, without the ministry of the word.
A child of God CANNOT, and DOES NOT and WILL NOT have a spiritual
mind apart from the ministry of the word that renews and transforms the mind,
AND the child of God subjecting his mind to the will of God.
Without the ministry of the word, God's children remain ignorant
as well as carnal!!!
Regeneration DOES NOT produce a mind that is spiritual.
No, a spiritual mind IS NOT intrinsic to regeneration.
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22 Comments
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Sing
If speaking of nature, then it is a redundant question... since
that is already assumed by virtue of regeneration, brother Dan.
Sing
The original question is this:
Is a spiritual mind intrinsic to regeneration? What do you think?
If the spiritual mind is intrinsic to regeneration, then EVERY
child of God without exception will have a spiritual mind, and therefore none
will have a carnal mind. But that idea does not accord with the Scriptures.
Sing
Yes, a regenerate has a spiritual nature; he is no longer flesh,
he is spirit. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is
born of the Spirit is spirit."
A regenerate has a spiritual nature but NOT an intrinsic spiritual
mind the way the Scriptures speak of being spiritually minded. A spiritual
nature enables him to have a spiritual mind.
In the context of a regenerate, being spiritually minded and
carnally minded are opposed to each other.
Sing
A spiritual nature by virtue of divine activity of regeneration,
and a spiritual mind by virtue of its renewal through the ministry of the word
and being transformed through it are quite distinct indeed.
Ante Zivkovic
I think that the issue is that a regenerated person cannot know
right from wrong without the ministry.
Sing
1 Cor 3:1 ¶ And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto
spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you
with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither
yet now are ye able.
These Corinthians believers were children of God, regenerate
elect.
But they were NOT spiritual-minded. They were carnal!
Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. Those who have a
spiritual nature, a new nature as a result of regeneration are capable of discerning
spiritual things. Under the ministry of the word, a man MIND with a spiritual
NATURE will soon be renewed and his mind is said to be spiritual.
A dead man that is quickened will soon gain health and is
strengthen under a rigorous regime of nourishment and physiotherapy. I hope
this helps to illustrate what I'm saying.
Sing
Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be
spiritually minded is life and peace.
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It requires great effort on the part of God's children to move
from being carnally minded to being spiritually-minded.
If being spiritually minded is intrinsic in regeneration, then
life and peace here on earth are automatically the portions of all of God's
children.
Sing
I thought so... we are defining things differently.
A man with a new spiritual NATURE is not necessarily of a
spiritual mind.
You seem to disagree with this... do I read you right?
If a spiritual mind is intrinsic to regeneration, then each and
every child of God (regenerated elect) IS spiritually-minded, and none will
ever be carnally minded. Such an idea is quite contrary to the Scriptures.
I wish such an idea is true indeed. It will make pastoral ministry
a whole lot easier!
