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Therefore as by the offence of one
judgment came upon all men
to condemnation [of death];
even so
by the righteousness of one
the free gift came upon all men
unto justification of life.
Rom 5:18
judgment came upon all men
to condemnation [of death];
even so
by the righteousness of one
the free gift came upon all men
unto justification of life.
Rom 5:18
Sins bring condemnation of death.
Righteousness is prerequisite for justification of life.
No righteousness, no justification;
no justification, no right to life!
Christ alone secured the needed righteousness for His people. God freely applies that righteousness to each of Christ's people when they were dead in trespasses and sins, i.e. God justifies the ungodly, applying Christ righteousness to them personally. And the Holy Spirit regenerates those whom God has applied the righteousness of Christ unto justification of life!
Culligan
"Imputation has to do with justification which is eternal and which is wholly external to man. The imputation of Christ's righteousness is forensic only and does not empower. Justification was accomplished by the shed blood of Christ. Regeneration is not required for justification.
“He who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification.”~ M.C.
(Romans 4:25 NAS95)
Sing F Lau
Justification was purposed by God for all the elect before the foundation of the world.
Justification was accomplished by Christ at the cross for all the elect. This is justification by the blood of Christ, by the faith OF Christ - the basis and the ground of justification.
Justification is applied by the Holy Spirit to each elect personally at effectual calling out of the state of sin and death to that of grace and salvation. What is legal is now made personal. This is justification by the free grace of God - how righteousness is applied to an elect personally, freely by God.
Justification is experienced through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. What is personal is now experienced, and manifested. This is the practical experience, and evidence of the justified state by God's free grace based on the righteousness of Christ.
Justification finally vindicated at resurrection.
Those are the five distinct aspects of the biblical doctrine of justification.
Culligan
Thank you Sing F Lau!
Sing F Lau
These distinctions were common with the old school theology... plainly stated in the classic confessions... all lost and unknown to the new school theology...
All they know is the heretical 'sola fidei' - legal justification through man's act of believing!
Culligan
Interestingly, I was looking at the Ordo Salutis off of a Reformed website and they had it as
1) Election
2) Predestination
3) Gospel Call
4) Inward Call
5) Regeneration
6) Conversion (Faith and Repentance)
7) Justification
8) Sanctification
9) Glorification
But I would have thought that Justification came after Predestination or at least before Regeneration. What do you think Sing F Lau?
Sing F Lau
Justification by faith alone (i.e. faith as man's act of believing) is the GREATEST LIE foisted upon Christianity! It is a devil's lie.
Faith is an effect and fruit of justification by God's free grace based on the righteousness of Jesus Christ.
An unjustified man is a man STILL under the condemnation of sin and death. Such a man can't possibly believe at all. It is only a justified man, i.e. a man to whom God has APPLIED the righteousness of Christ personally (thus giving the Holy Spirit the divine warrant to regenerate the justified... and making believing possible!, who is regenerated, and thus enabled to believe.
A fruit and effect of justification CANNOT be the instrumental means to secure the same justification.
The Mother of Harlots believes that a sinner's justification before God is by BOTH faith and works.
Her daughters believe that a sinner's justification before God is by faith ALONE.
Bible declares that a sinner's justification before God is by the application of Christ's righteousness alone to an elect personally, freely by Gods grace alone; therefore neither faith nor works.
The act of believing is the EFFECT of the justification of life, thus evidences the justified state..
Sing F Lau
Take a careful look here, and tell me what you think. I was brought up in the ordo salutis of the reformed. But it is really DEFORMED disorder... I am glad you are seeing it...
http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2011/05/order-of-salvation.html
The Order of Salvation
God bless you, brother.
Culligan
Awesome, Thank you!
Sing F Lau
Look at this too:
http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2010/10/justification-by-grace-received-by.html
Justification by faith alone is really a doctrine of the devil.
Justification by God's free grace based on the righteousness of Christ is experienced by faith alone is a doctrine of the Bible.
Biblical distinction is the essence of sound theology.
Huberty
Good distinction Sing F Lau. That is far too often over looked by many who too hastily react to varied forms of works doctrines with "faith alone". Paul makes it perfectly clear: "By grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves. It is the gift of God lest any should boast." By the grace of God, many are being saved through grace; none have ever been saved by grace.
Huberty
Whoops! Correction. none have ever been saved by faith. Hate it when I do that.
Sing F Lau
"By grace are you saved through faith..."
May I ask, whose faith, and what is that faith?
See here:Saved by grace through faith – whose faith?
http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2008/01/saved-by-grace-through-faith-whose.html
Sing F Lau
Culligan @ But I would have thought that Justification came after Predestination or at least before Regeneration. What do you think?
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Scriptures and common sense tell us that justification must be before regeneration.
Sin earns condemnation and death.
Righteousness is prerequisite for justification and life.
No righteousness, no life.
Justification is legal imputation, and personal application of Christ's righteousness to those in the condemnation of death. [Legal imputation took place when Christ died at the cross; personal application takes place at effectual calling out of the native state of sin and trespasses and sin to that of grace and salvation.]
Regeneration is the begetting of eternal life in those under the condemnation of death based on the righteousness of Christ that has been applied. [Application of righteousness must precede the regeneration to life!]
Romans 5:18 "Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."
And the righteousness needed is provided by God through the faith OF OF OF Christ... not through faith IN IN IN Christ.
Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
The legal imputation of righteousness (happened to all the elect at the cross) and the personal application of righteousness to each elect at effectual call gives DIVINE warrant for the Holy Spirit to regenerate that elect.
Justification must precede regeneration! Life is the effect, and evidence of a justified state.
It is the just (the justified ones) that shall live by faith...
New school calvinists think the unjustified are regenerated... i.e those under the condemnation of death is at the same time regenerated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How nonsensical!
And they believe that the unjustified (under the condemnation of death) can believe in order to be justified! What madness!!!!!
Huberty
I think I agree and disagree, Sing. In an a chronological sense, I would say they occur simultaneously. We know at least that our names have been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world and the Lamb was slain from... the foundation of the world. In a logical sense I think it could be argued either way. "Why would God regenerate the unjustified?" is a good question. On the other hand, we are justified by grace through faith and "How could a person exercise faith before being regenerated?" is another good question. Perhaps it is the difference between accomplished and applied.
[ "...before the foundation of the world" qualifies the writing of the names in the book of life! It answers, "when were the names written?" The "lamb slain" qualifies the book of life! Which book? The book of life of the Lamb slain. Common and popular notion. sing]
Huberty
Yes it is. Traditionally it has been thought the faith given the believer by God as a gift. Some neo-Calvinist would argue it is the faith of Christ. I have a couple of problems with the latter: Taking the biblical definition of faith as the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen, I'm not sure how that would apply to the Son. As God, what things are not seen by Him. Secondly, I can't reconcile it being the faith of Christ with faith is the gift of God ( Eph. 2:9)
Sing F Lau
Chronologically: righteousness APPLIED, regeneration, adoption and the gift of the Spirit of adoption happen simultaneously in the effectual calling out of the state of sin and death to that of grace and salvation.
To bring an elect from ...his native state of sin and death to that of grace and salvation, all these activities of the Triune God by His free and sovereign grace must occur: righteousness APPLIED, regeneration, adoption and the gift of the Spirit of adoption... in that number and logical order.
These activities of God MAKE hearing and believing the gospel possible when there is the ministry of the gospel.
'Justified by grace through faith' is a common expression. A good question is: by whose faith?
Faith is a grace worked in the heart of a child of God - righteousness APPLIED, regeneration, adoption and the gift of the Spirit of adoption - that enables him to believe the gospel of Christ. The grace of faith is a FRUIT and effect of justification applied... so the 'faith' in the popular statement 'Justified by grace through faith' CANNOT possibly refer to the grace of faith worked in the heart of a child of God.
It must refer to something else... even the basis of justification by grace.
Huberty
I don't agree with the expression "Justified by grace through faith". It is common, yes, but I think not biblical. The biblical expression is "saved by grace through faith". We are not justified by grace or faith. Specifically, we are justified by the finished work of Christ. By the grace of God we have such a work done on our behalf, true enough, but it is the work and not the grace by which we have the work of Christ that justifies. Have to run to work, my friend. I really appreciate your posts, the discussion and the godly way in which you present yourself. I just last evening when preaching touched on the problem of the current tendency for believers to appear as though they are more interested in being quarrelsome than helpful to one another.
I really appreciate your spirit, brother. So good to have these discussions and re-examine our beliefs to be sure they are in line with Scripture.
Sing F Lau
Huberty @ "Secondly, I can't reconcile it being the faith of Christ with faith is the gift of God ( Eph. 2:9)"
Then take a look here to help solve your problem...
http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2008/01/saved-by-grace-through-faith-whose.html
Thanks for the discussion.
