Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Wednesday, July 16, 2025

Was Adam created immortal?

Was Adam created immortal?

 

Leong
My Hebrew teacher asked me this:  Was Adam created immortal? What do you think of this?

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Adam was created with immortality - i.e. with an ever-living and undying spirit. This is one of the reasons for this declaration, ”And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Genesis 1:31 KJT

Death/mortality - the separation of his body and spirit, and separation from and cessation of fellowship/communion with God - was a divine penalty judicially imposed on account of sin. Mortality is not part of Adam's creation; death is the wages of sin

Genesis 2:17 KJT — But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

What did the race of Adam lose in Adam through his disobedience?

What did Christ, the second Adam, gain for His race through His obedience?

The fact that what we have gained in Christ is infinitely better than what we had lost in Adam - this does not directly deal with the question of whether Adam was created immortal.

If Adam had obeyed, he and his race would have been confirmed in the state of natural blessedness,  in which he was created. It would have been a world without sin and its devastating consequences.

Genesis 1:31 KJT — And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, *it was very good*. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Adam and his race were created immortal. Heaven and the lake of fire for eternity after the general resurrection are indisputably affirmative of the immortality of Adam and his race.

1 Corinthians 15:53 KJT — For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

2 Timothy 1:10 KJT — But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.

Pay close attention to this 2-verse paragraph:

Romans 5
18 ¶Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Mortality, condemnation  of death is the effect of sin, of disobedience.

May the Lord grant you understanding. Amen.

Leong
So we do not need Christ to die for us, had Adam not sinned? But God had planned it to be this way before the world was formed. So God knew that Adam would sin.

sing
If Adam had not sinned, he would have been confirmed in his natural state of blessedness; if he had not sinned, there would have been no death, mortality to deal with.

God had made Adam completely capable of not falling had Adam chosen to obey. But he was capable of falling, too. That explains the thunderous warning, "... thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Yea, God has purposed the eternal redemption of His people; He did not leave the whole race of Adam to its just and righteous wrath because of sin. He knew Adam would fail.

Ephesians 1
3 ¶Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Go and read a bit, and you will discover that Adam was created immortal, with free agency to act in obedience or disobedience to God's command.

Death is a judicial penalty imposed upon sin; if there were no sin, there would be no death.

Leong
I just finished joining our Hebrew grammar class. At the end of the class, the teacher touched a bit on "is Adam created immortal?" Her answer was that Adam was created a mortal. The reason is that the Tree of Life is in the garden also.

She said that the opposite of the Tree of Life is the Tree of Death (aka the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil). So Adam is created physically mortal but spiritually immortal

sing
The tree of life was in the garden for one specific purpose: access to the tree of life is for the confirmation in the state of blessedness because of obedience.

The tree of life IS NOT the opposite of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil IS NOT the tree of death. Where does this silly idea come from?

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil served one specific purpose:
Genesis 2:17 KJV — But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

It's just a normal, ordinary tree. It's designated as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil to denote one thing:
- For Adam to eat of the tree is to declare himself as the source of the knowledge of what is good and evil;
- For Adam not to eat of that tree, IN OBEDIENCE TO the LORD God, is to declare/acknowledge that God is the source of the knowledge of what is good and evil.
- That's the significance of the name of that tree.

 It declares a most basic fundamental issue: Who is the source of the knowledge of good and evil: man himself, or LORD God?

May God grant you understanding.