Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things"
2Ti 2:7.

Monday, July 3, 2023

How easy it is to twist the word of God!

How easy it is to twist the word of God!

How easy it is to twist the word of God!

Here is one GLARING example. See it for yourself!

2Pet 1 reads
5 ¶ And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.

Nicky reads and concludes with this comment:
"If we do not make our election sure, then it follows that we are not elect, not that we are elect but failed to make it sure. The whole point of “making our election sure” is so we can have confidence that we ARE indeed elect! In other words, we have no assurance of being elect if we fail to make our election sure."

Nicky says:
If we do not make our election sure, then it follows that we are not elect.

Scriptures say:
If we do not make our election sure, then we (who have obtained like precious faith with the apostles through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ, 2Pet 1:1) shall be barren and unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Nicky says:
The whole point of “making our election sure” is so we can have confidence that we ARE indeed elect!

Scriptures say:
The whole point of “making our election sure” is so that we (who have obtained like precious faith with the apostles through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ) shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

See how easy it is to twist the Holy Scriptures.
It is frightening!
Let each one of us BEWARE... myself included!
It is no light thing to twist God's word!
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7 comments

Johnny Davis
I've always thought that Paul wrote this. Thanks for the quote, from Peter, perhaps with the personality of all the apostles, to develop the fruist of the spirit. Sing, is this a progression, towards the ultimate Godly characteristic, Love? If so, it is interesting that faith is mentioned FIRST, even before "good works" and "good works - vitue" before knowledge. If this is Peter's intent through God, then so much for "knowledge" by hearing BEFORE someone can have faith, and good works. It comes after those two. What does the Word say to you, not what do you think?

Sing F Lau
The first and chief work that God requires of His children is FAITH... believe on Him whom He has sent... That's the starting point... when that is settled, progress can be made.

When a child of God has done that, then he has a treasure chest to add other virtues into it.

John 6
28 ¶ Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

They asked about WORKS (plural)
Jesus said, forget the works, and directed them to ONE work. First thing first! Start with this work (singular). Get this one work sorted out first before thinking about others! That's the way to go, men!

Juliet Oliveros
amen pastor

Johnny Davis
I agree with you, on this interpretation of God's Word. While the ultimate goodness of God, is "love" and humans are able to achieve and obey the COMMAND to love, only through God, examples of all the virtues, come up, in our walk toward "godliness." The important think about "knowledge," is that it not get in the way, from our natural humanity to gloat of ourselves, in working toward other virutes, as "brotherly kindness," in particular. Thos other brothers make just not have been given the same knowledge that we have, and if God has given us the duty to teach, then it should be done with kindness, certainly with love. For without love, teaching, knowledge, any virtue, is meaningless. According to scripture.

Sing F Lau
'Meaningless' and 'unprofitable' are distinct, I think! May be less profitable, but surely not meaningless!

Johnny Davis
Well, from the standpoint, that Jesus himself said, that the Father was spread, through obvious error (from fortune tellers and magicians), I understand, your distinction. Yet, to the fortune teller, who has no love for God, and certainly no love for man, that he is in the process of scamming, it is meaningless to him. "If I should gain the entire world, and lose my soul, what does it profit?" The answer is so obvious, it was not given. NOTHING. That is meaningless, to me. Yet, by revealing the evil, that it is NOT love, not of the Father, the Father is "promoted" and taught, from God's spirit of love. So, in that sense, YES, you are correct, it is NOT meaningless.

Sing F Lau
Your statement: "For without love, teaching, knowledge, any virtue, is meaningless. According to scripture."

That's the context. How can 'teaching, knowledge, any virtue' be meaningless WITHOUT love? Without love, those great and good things would be of no profit to others! These don't become meaningless!