https://www.facebook.com/sing.f.lau/posts/10204027329419027
April 7, 2015
A
FB friend wrote to inform me:
Apparently, Froyd Moller [actual name altered a wee bit] has blocked you and he
posted this on my feed and I thought it only fair to relay it to you. You can't
read his feed on my page. Froyd Moller posted: "... Sing has been visited
by Elders who are sound and he is not to be trusted. The sooner you put him off
of your feeds the quicker you can have rest. This is not against him as a
person, but as his doctrine is not sound, his words are not to be
trusted."
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Some
while ago this Froyd Moller befriended me on FB. I accepted his request. We
exchanged some; he raved and ranted some, and was unhappy with me telling him
what I believe, and in the process pointing out his typical Calvinistic errors!
He defriended me - this was perfectly fine with me, finer than his free act of
befriending me.
His
accusation above amuses me.
He
spoke of Elders who had visited me. He can only be referring to Primitive
Baptist Elders [Zack Guess with three other men] who had visited me about 10 years ago. They were in the
region, in India on the way to the Philippines; they invited themselves to visit us, intensely
eager to make us PB!). I won't question whether those Elders were sound or not.
Now, let us just assume that those Elders were sound, and my doctrine is not
sound, and my words are not to be trusted.
My
question is simply: why then were those sound Elders so very desirous of a man
with unsound doctrine to become a Primitive Baptist? Either they were similarly
unsound, or someone is bearing false witness. Fair conclusion?
One
other PB elder was so eager and zealous to have me baptized into a PB; he
offered to fly all the way to do just that. I graciously offered that he does this: he
could stand in the western shore of USA, and I in the eastern shore of the
South China Sea, and he would call me on my cell phone, and perform the baptism
remotely. This way he could save the airfare as well as the arduous journey,
and channel the savings to some good use. He didn't pursue the idea.
18
Comments
Peter
Petersen
I
also realised some Reformer Facebook friends deleted me recently. Not sure why,
and not that I care much, but hope i didnt display any carnality under my
Facebook profile or cause other believers to stumble in some way. I don't know.
Bill
Taylor
Apparently, Calvin's model of killing those who don't agree with you is still in full
operation.
Nelda
Bryant
Did
Calvin burn a man alive at the stake?
PJ
Walters
Maybe
a third alternative is that you were sound when those elders visited you, but
now you are not.
Michael
D. Green Jr.
Yes,
he consented to the death of Michael Servetus due to theological differences.
Sing
F Lau
We
would be better off talking about the polar bear than the Genevan. <LOL>
No disrespect is intended in any way.
Bill
Taylor
I
have found that there are points of biblical interpretation that many brethren
will not allow that their "corporate" view may not be the only
feasible one. Fundamental doctrines of grace are not under consideration for
leeway; but other points should be. I don't happen to agree with Bro. Sing on
some of his biblical perspectives; but I will not call him unsound just because
he believes those things differently from me. Brethren, if you will think a man
an heretic because he has a different view of Lazarus and the rich man (was he
in a literal hell or not), then you will mark me as an heretic as well. (Please
don't start a dialogue on why it HAD to be literal hell). I don't agree with
Bro. Sing's understanding of hell and the lake of fire (from the standpoint of
who is in hell at any given time), but I will not throw him away because I
don't agree with him. Go read his understanding of justification and see if you
can develop arguments against it. NONE of us has ever had, nor ever will have,
perfect understanding in this life.
J.E.
Griffis
Well
said, Brother Bill.
Charles
Page
Who
is brother Bill? Shame that all comments can't be read!
Mack
Floyd
Sing
F Lau, if a primitive baptist offered to baptise you remotely more than likely
he was not a PB. We believe in submerging. But there are several different p.b.
Charles
Page
Sing,
were you visited by old school PBs or neo-absoluter PBs?
[I found out later that they were Calvinistic PBs. sing]
Mack
Floyd
Charles Page, old school baptists don't visit not to try and convert them. Now there is a
verse about if someone errs PB will visit but I think that's a member
Charles
Page
Mack,
I think you are right about that!!! Sing was visited by neo-absoluters!!!
Mack
Floyd
I
heard of neonazi but not neo-absoluters but they believe everything was
predestinated right, Charles Page?
Charles
Page
Correct...PB
absoluters are an abbreviated form of Calvinist.
Sing
F Lau
Sing
F Lau, if a primitive baptist offered to baptise you remotely more than likely
he was not a PB. We believe in submerging. But there are several different PBs.
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No,
no PB offered to baptize me remotely. I consented to be baptized like that to
save them the enormous cost involved in flying here from the US.
Submersion
is not a hindrance for baptism to be done remotely <lol>. I carry a
waterproof cellphone... you on the other side of the globe say the appropriate
words to me, and the moment I hear you say, "I now baptize you in the name
of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost," I will SUBMERGE
myself below the water, handphone and all, stay submerged for 7x3 seconds, and
come up
Please
show no disrespect towards the PBs. They are good people.
Though there are "several different p.b.", I have only known the regular and good ones! My exposure is quite limited.
Charles
Page
Amen,
they are the nicest people even the neo-absoluters are nice people, cordial and
courteous!
