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January 16, 2014
In any organized
group, the subtle power to coerce and to conform or be ostracized is very real.
If someone claims that the group he belongs to is an exception, I will grant
him the benefit of the doubt.
When I was among the
RBs, I experienced it personally... one has to toe the line. They will quote
their favourite "reformed" theologians to shut you up. But I was
reading things in the Scriptures that plainly (to me anyway) repudiate some of
their cherished fables but I would just have to toe the line, and stick to
their "standard reformed position" because those theologians knew
better! And when I did begin to speak up, I was sacked, shunned, and smeared.
But that was the best thing to happen to me; I felt so liberated... for the first time, I felt
like a FREEEEEEEEEEE man in Christ Jesus.
So, I'm very very
weary of joining any church group that will give license to some men to lord
over others... Let Jesus Christ ALONE be your Lord.
Newell
Amen, brother! The path to freedom lies outside the camp, where the religious leaders crucified our Lord!
Ante
I’m about to be
kicked out of the church. It is MacArthur calminianistic church. It isn't even
reformed. And then last Sunday there was a guest speaker. He is a graduate from
our church college. And his sermon was john 3:16. The sermon started with a
great man John Wesley and it was a typical arminian sermon. At the end, I just
went home without saying anything. But the pastor pulled me over and asked me
did I like what was preached. I said no. And he said we should part ways. Now I
don't know am I kicked out and if so, what is the charge, and if heresy, what
heresy.
Sing
Here is my thought on John 3:16.
Here is my thought on John 3:16.
I won't ask anyone
if they like it... doesn't matter to me.
Dan
"They will
quote their favourite "reformed" theologians to shut you up."
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This so, so true,
Bro. Sing. They resort to intellectual intimidation and hide behind the skirts
of their theologians!
Newell
John 9:34 "They
answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou
teach us? And they cast him out." Said of the man born blind, healed, and
following Jesus.
Dan
I remember I had a
discussion with Reformed fellow on immediate regeneration. When he could not
get out of his spiral arguments, he started challenging my theological
background and education, and finally boasted of his being a seminary
professor. :)
[This is exactly the same condescending way the principal of a Ministerial Academy in the Philippines I interacted with!)
Newell
As you read the New
Testament, notice who gave The Lord and His apostles the most problems - the
Pharisees, who were the most conservative, restrictive segment of the Jews'
religion.
Charles
Funny, I have had
problems with another similar group!