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1Ki 18:27 "And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked."
Elijah is calling the prophets of Baal 'stupid' in a very nice polite way!
Conversation with a pastor friend... who is so lacking in common sense, i.e. stupid!
Many people are offended by the word 'stupid.'
The adjective stupid |ˈst(y)oōpid| simply mean lacking intelligence or common sense. It is not a derogatory adjective. It is a factual and objective description of lacking common sense... such as when a man insists that a dead man can, and must eat in order to get life! Such a man lacks common sense!
Lorry
Sing, I have dealt with you with the Word of God and you call me of the devil. It is you who neglect what the Word says.
It should be wiser on your part to point out what quotation i was wrong with but you don't. Your AD HOMINEM postures show your inability to fairly engage and study the Word.
Sing F Lau
Oh LORRY, you are really as stupid as I thought!!!
It is NOT your quotation of Scriptures, and that is a world of difference from dealing with the word of God!!! You have not dealt with the word of God... you have merely quoted the word of God, like Satan did. Even in your quotation of Scriptures, you are NO smarter than Satan.
What is worse, is your twisting of those Scriptures you have quoted... just like Satan HAD DONE before.
You don't understand UNTIL now. It is not just quoting Scriptures and imagine they say what you want them to say. Sorry, I was away in another city doing some church planting work.
Let me give you THE simple but obvious example... again.
Satan, you and I can both quote Scriptures like, Joh 6:47 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life."
Satan and you will understand this Scriptures as Jesus offering everlasting life to one (dead in trespasses and sins, WITHOUT everlasting life) on the condition that he believes in Jesus.
Satan and you believe that Jesus is making an offer of everlasting life to the spiritually dead man. If he believes in Jesus Christ, then everlasting salvation is given to him.
I read this as Jesus declaring and making a FACTUAL statement about the believing man - i.e. the man who believes does so BECAUSE HE POSSESSES everlasting life!
It is like, "whosoever eats has life."
Satan and you take this as an offer to the dead, one who has no life... that if the dead man will only eat, then he will be given life. Little children in my congregation understand the utter stupidity of such nonsense. But that's what you and Satan would want people to believe.
But that is a statement of truth, and not a statement of offer. It declares a certain and specific truth concerning te man who believes.
Sir, when you CAN'T even distinguish a statement of FACT from a statement of OFFER, how can you rightly divide the word of TRUTH???????????????????
Lorry
DON'T CALL ME STUPID.
ARE YOU A SON OF THE DEVIL.
YOUR MOUTH IS FILTHY.
You just bark and bark and have not pointed out the Scriptures i gave and what they say.
Never call a brother FOOL OR STUPID.
Mt 5:22 "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
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I fear you don't EVEN know the different between 'stupid' and 'fool'!!!
stupid |ˈst(y)oōpid|
adjective ( -pider, -pidest)
lacking intelligence or common sense :
Someone very intelligent may be a fool too!
Lorry
How did you know I lack intelligence or common sense?
We are talking of the doctrines of the bible and you CAN NOT EVEN give me the verses to support your beliefs.
You just responded calling me STUPID.
You are in darkness.
Never call a brother stupid.
You can not engage with grace of speech.
ARE YOU SON OF THE DEVIL?
Sing F Lau
I know that you lack intelligence or common sense because you are so stupid as to believe that a man without eternal life can perform some spiritual activities to get eternal life.
It is like believing a dead man can and must do something to become alive. I say you must be VERY STUPID to believe such obvious nonsense!
When a man is without common sense, he need to be told he is without common sense. That's being honest with him. You don't call a stupid man something else!!!
Lorry
Sing its not human intelligence that is used here. The wisdom of the world is FOOLISHNESS before God.
The bible says the gospel is the power of God to save those who believes. Paul said faith comes from hearing the word. Jesus said His words are life and spirit. God ENABLES the sinner to understand the gospel and from the heart accept and believe Christ. THIS YOU DONT ACCEPT BECAUSE OF YOUR HUMAN LOGICAL TEACHINGS.
Sing F Lau
I don't accept your LIES and STUPIDITY because Christ said so...
The Lord Jesus said, 'Except a man be born again, i.e. be given eternal life, he CANNOT... CANNOT..." John 3:3,6
You don't agree. You insist that a man who is not born again of God CAN... CAN... CAN... can hear spiritual things, can believe... can accept Christ.... IN ORDER TO OBTAIN eternal life.
Instead, you INSIST that a man who is not born again, who is still dead in trespasses and sins, can perform some activities in order to get eternal life.
You are SO STUPID.
You said, "Paul said faith comes from hearing the word."
But only those whom God has given eternal life have faith... only those whom God has given eternal life can hear spiritual things...
Begone, my STUPID brother!!!
I have no pleasure wasting time with you.
Lorry
Continue to Jn 3:15-18 Jesus preached the good news and faith in Him to be born again.
Your a pity and can not control your tongue.|
Your the one who appears to be a FOOL in our conversation because you REJECT OTHER SCRIPTURES.
Sing F Lau
Larry, you are not only very obtuse, but also very STUPID.
I deliberately call you STUPID hoping to wake you up from your self-conceit.
And what's the use of continuing to John 3;15-18? Do you think Jesus Christ will say something to CONTRADICT what He has said earlier in the chapter?
You don't even seem to know your problem!!!
You interpretation of Scriptures CONTRADICT other part of Scriptures. That means you have not rightly divided the word of truth. If you rightly divide the word of truth, there will be no contradiction.
I don't reject any Scriptures. I can explain each one of them so that they DO NOT CONTRADICT each other.
The way you interpret Scriptures, there are so many CONTRADICTIONS. And your Filipino brethren are so kind as to point the contradictions out to you.... BUT you are TOO STUPID and BLIND and self-conceits to see those contradictions.
So, begone, my STUPID brother!!!
I have no pleasure wasting time with you.
Lorry
Jesus did not contradicted. Thats only in ur thoughts.
The apostles confirmed His teaching in Jn 3:15-18 that the gospel is preached and He is accepted.
Here :
Jn 1:12-13 He is received first then God causes new birth.
1Pet 1:23-25 and Js 1:18 We are gven new birth thru the gospel.
DO NOT BE A FOOL by neglecting the WORD. :)
Sing F Lau
That is why I said, you are SO STUPID... because when you make Christ words to contradict, you are not even aware of it.
Jesus Christ so PLAINLY, SIMPLY, CLEARLY, WITHOUT ANY SHADOW OF DOUBT declares that NEW BIRTH MUST precede, without which a man dead in trespasses and sin, CANNOT do the activities of see or entering.... John 3:3,5-6.
then you stupidly make John 1:12-13 to say the opposite: a man dead in trespasses and sins must receive Jesus Christ first, and then he is born again.
You have just made Jesus to contradict Himself.
You have committed the sin of bearing false witness, and taking the name of Christ in vain... no small matter, Brother Larry. Don't behave with such STUPIDITY.
After this I'll block you. May our Lord Himself teach you.
Thanks.
Lorry
WHERE IS THE VERSE? DON'T BE A LIAR.
Jesus Christ so PLAINLY, SIMPLY, CLEARLY, WITHOUT ANY SHADOW OF DOUBT declares that NEW BIRTH MUST precede, without which a man dead in trespasses and sin, CANNOT do the activities of see or entering....
Don't become a fool and a liar. Ok
Sing F Lau
O Larry, your question "where is the verse..." betrays your complete obtuseness, that you don't ever read or listen to our conversation.
Never mind, sir. I'll take my leave of you now.
May our Lord Himself teach you.
Thanks.
