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| "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." And "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." |
This little exchange [verbatim] below between a Sir Matthiu and his Lady Jane caught my attention...
This is an example how the plain word of truth is twisted and perverted by a sincere but misguided student of God's word!
Here is the short exchange in full, followed by a few comments.
https://www.facebook.com/matthew.d.sturt#!/mattongbp/posts/10151463795118403]
Comments in italics within the exchange are mine...
Sir Matthiu asked:
Did Adam LIED when He call the Woman Eve in this verse??
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[Genesis 3:20] And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
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Yes and No answer. And Show another verse to justify thy answer.
Lady Jane
No. God called them Adam, and Adam called her Eve...
"This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day when God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created." - Genesis 5: 1-2 (KJB)
[Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."
"Adam" is used both in a generic sense referring to the huMAN race, and the personal name of the man who is the representative head of the huMAN race. Adam called the being made out of him woMAN. The human race Adam consist of the MALE man and FEMALE man.
MAN first call the beautiful huMAN being made out of him a woMAN... why? "because she was taken out of Man."
Fallen Adam called his wife Eve after the fall... why? "because she was the mother of all living."]
Matthiu
"their name is Adam." NOT their name is Adam and Eve. Please read REALLY carefully.
[Here is a basic ignorance. Their name is Adam indicates that the huMAN race is made up of a MALE man and a feMALE man, both having exactly the same essence. They were created in the likeness of God... i.e. two distinct persons with exactly the same huMAN essence, even so three distinct persons with exactly the same divine essence.]
Jane
Well, I said God called them both Adam, but Adam called her Eve.
[Well said... Gen 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." But Sir Matthiu insists that Adam calling his wife Eve is a grievous sin of lying, and quotes God as his authority, "God found Adam lying." What is his basis for making such a charge? Did God say so? Or was Adam actually expressing faith and confidence in God's wonderful promise of the Saviour in the seed of the woman?]
Matthiu
But also read MORE carefully and COMPARE what God said and Adam. Adam was ALREADY caught lying by God when he said called Eve. Adam at that POINT in time already had the lying spirit within him. IS Adam the father of saviour or IS God s the father of the saviour??
[Matthiu can't stay on the subject... did Adam lie in calling the woman Eve. He just conveniently drifted off to another subject to avoid the subject! Where in the Scriptures does it say that "Adam already caught lying by God when he called the woman Eve? Matthiu is taking the name of God in vain! And he is bearing false witness against God too - the 3rd and the 9th commandments are transgressed!!!
Jane
According to the bible, you're right. Adam is lying.
[No, according to the Holy Scriptures, Sir Matthiu is wrong, and LIED... even though he may be a sincere man! he is not only lying, he takes the name of God in vain, and ALSO bear false witness!]
Matthiu
Which is why when Eve gave birth to Cain (natural man) FIRST son of Adam, Cain, he was a murderer (had the spirituality within) and slew the second Spiritual son Abel (whom God called).
SUBTLE lies (doctrine that justify they as EVE) from the harlots and their mothers exposed CLEARLY and very carefully here in Genesis. Their preachers claims to have the ability to spiritually give birth to THEIR spiritual children.
[Your hatred and enmity against the RCC have perverted and twisted your ability to rightly divide the word of truth. Fallen Adam calling his wife Eve BECAUSE he believed the glorious promise of God that redemption shall come through the seed of the WOMAN!!! The name Eve reflects and signifies that truth! But you, in your blind zeal, have twisted something beautiful into something evil!]
Jane
Matthiu it's sad to know that this isn't exposed in many churches.
[Jane, it is sadder to witness that you are so easily taken in by the follies of Sir Matthiu!!!]
Matthiu
Do not be, their "churches" IS meant to be a cage. Those withOUT the cage IS justified and called out by Christ JESUS in Revelation 18:4.
=== exchange ends here ===
So, Brother Matthiu begins with an evil presupposition that Adam's calling the woman Eve constituted a lie, and that Adam was caught lying by God calling the woman Eve!
Let's see whether the Scriptures support that, or they are just wild and evil imagination forced upon the Scriptures.
"And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living" Gen 3:20.
"Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them" Gen 3:21.
Why did Adam call the woman [a generic name for a female man] Eve?
- He called the woman Eve because he believed in the glorious promise of God... "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
- There shall be deliverance through the seed of the woman. There is no more hope in the fallen Adam. Adam believed it, and as an expression of his faith, he called the woman Eve... because he believed she was the mother of all living.
- But Matthiu sees hints of RCC harlot here! He fights against RCC in a very wrong place. RCC loves to have misguided enemies like Matthiu!!!
Did Adam lie when he called his wife Eve?
- Most certainly not. Why? There isn't a shred of evidence. It is Sir Matthiu evil and corrupt imagination, influenced by his zealous hatred against anything remotely connected with the harlot RCC.
- We read that God clothed Adam with the garment of skin! 20 ¶ And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. 21 ¶ Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them." Verse 21 follows right after verse 20. There is the slightest hint that Adam was lying, neither is their the slightest hint that God found Adam lying!
What is the significance of fallen Adam calling the woman Eve.
John Gill has some wise words here:
"because she was the mother of all living: ... was prophetic of what she would be... and the ground of this faith and persuasion of his, that he and his wife should not die immediately for the offence they had committed, but should live and propagate their species, as well as be partakers of spiritual and eternal life, was the hint that had been just given, that there would be a seed spring from them; not only a numerous offspring, but a particular eminent person that should be the ruin of the devil and his kingdom, and the Saviour of them; and so Eve would be not, only the mother of all men living in succeeding generations, but particularly, or however one descending from her, would be the mother of him that should bring life and immortality to light, or be the author of all life, natural, spiritual, and eternal; and who is called zwh, "the life," which is the same word by which the Greek version renders Eve in the preceding clause. It was with pleasure, no doubt, that Adam gave her this name; and it appears that this affair of her being seduced by the serpent, and of drawing him into the transgression, did not alienate his affection from her; and the rather he must needs cleave unto her, and not forsake her, since her seed was to break the serpent's head, and procure life and salvation for them..."
Conclusion
Adam did not lie. Matthiu did. Worse still, he accused God of things He did not do, and he bore false witness against Adam. But Matthiu being a stiff neck and incorrigible man - I know him personally for quite a while - he will unlikely own his sin and admit his errors.
This is the sole reason I wrote the above:
James 5:
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
