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The angels that sinned...
2Pet 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly.
Jude 6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
Please assist me in rightly dividing these two passages.
I assume that these two passages are intimately related; both deal with the angels and their judgment; the first passage states the angels that sinned; the second describes the nature of the sin committed by those angels involved.
To facilitate some study, let me ask some questions. Please feel free to ask your own. Please answer these questions that are directly related to the two passages of the Scriptures.
But first, a few things to take note of to save us from saying ideas that are self-evidently contradictions:
1. The reason that Satan and his angels were initially cast out of heaven to the earth (Rev 12:9) is different from these angels that sinned and were "cast down to hell... reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." 2Pet 2:4, Jude 6.
- The two are distinct and completely different events. Many flippantly confound the two!
- The two are distinct and completely different events. Many flippantly confound the two!
2. Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven because of pride, and the angels that did not keep their first estate but left their own habitation are different and distinct matters.
- The former is the result of rebellion; the latter is a failure to remain in their appointed estate, their own habitation, the sin of trespassing into another habitation NOT their own. The two events are distinct; don't confound or equate them
3. Both Peter and Jude were matter-of-factly speaking of a historical event, an event that their Jewish recipients knew and understood. They needed no further elaboration. But today, very few have any clue!
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Some questions on 2Pet 2:4-5
1. Who were the angels that were involved in this particular sin?
(i.e. were they the same as those that were cast out of heaven, or were they some of the angels that had already been cast out of heaven with Satan?
(i.e. were they the same as those that were cast out of heaven, or were they some of the angels that had already been cast out of heaven with Satan?
2. What was the sin committed by the angels involved?
3. When did the sin happen?
4. Is it recorded in the Scriptures? If so, where?
5. Why did Peter and Jude take for granted that their Jewish recipients knew what they were talking about?
6. God spared not the angels that sinned (v4) and God spared not the old world (v5), are the two events related; if so, how? (2Pet 2).
- Please note, verses 4-5 are one sentence, divided by a semicolon.
7. Those angels that sinned, where are they now?
8. What was the intention/scheme of the angels that sinned; what did they want to accomplish? Were they successful? Why?
Questions on Jude 6
1. Who were the angels involved here? (i.e. were they the same as those that were cast out of heaven, or were they some of the angels that had already been cast out of heaven with Satan?
2. What was the first estate of the angels mentioned?
3. What was the native (their own) habitation of these angels?
4. When did those angels that kept not their first estate leave their own habitation?
5. What happened when they left their own habitation?
- What was their new habitation having left their own habitation?
6. Where, in the Scriptures, is this leaving their own habitation and trespassing into another habitation recorded if is it indeed recorded at all?
7. What did the angels purpose to accomplish when they trespassed into a habitation not their own? What was their intention?
8. Where did Jude get his information about those angels that kept not their first estate but left their own habitation?
9. Were ALL fallen angels (Satan and all his hosts that were cast out of heaven to the earth) involved in leaving their own habitation? See Q1.
10. Were ALL fallen angels reserved by God in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day? Why?
These are simple questions directly related to the two passages. They should make you think!
I would like to know your thoughts. Meanwhile, I will slaughter and roast the piglet and brew some blue tea, ready for a good study.
I would like to know your thoughts. Meanwhile, I will slaughter and roast the piglet and brew some blue tea, ready for a good study.
Keep busy, put on the brain before we start opening our mouths. And please note, the only thing I'm interested in is rightly dividing the word of truth. And that begins with and requires some plain answers to the questions on those two passages above.
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." 2Cor 11:14
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