Things New and Old: Salvation by grace alone BUT conditioned upon an absolute condition!!! Calvinists MADNESS

Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things" 2Ti 2:7.

Monday, July 3, 2017

Salvation by grace alone BUT conditioned upon an absolute condition!!! Calvinists MADNESS

Mr R C Sproul preaches a salvation based upon an absolute condition
that must be met by the UN-saved (dead in trespasses and sins)
in order to be saved.
And he still gives lip service to salvation by grace alone!

Watch the short video clip here:
https://www.facebook.com/Ligonier/videos/10155700066168115/

Mr. R. C. Sproul is a theologian loved and revered by many reformed and calvinistic folks.

In this clip, he betrays his inconsistencies and contradictions in his understanding of the doctrine of salvation by God's free and sovereign grace. He advocates a CONDITIONAL salvation, with an ABSOLUTE CONDITION!

What is worse is that he is oblivious to it, something so typical of the high-minded calvinists.

On the issue of God's love for all men, I express the same issue in this simple manner: there is the general love of God as Creator to all His creatures, and there is the particular love of God as Redeemer to all His elect. There is no common grace; grace is particular, in Jesus Christ alone.

But take careful note of what he also said...

"He [God] placed an absolute condition by which He requires - He doesn't just invite people to come to Christ - He commands men everywhere to repent of their sins and to come to Christ."

"... if you want to enjoy that love of complacency, you have to be in Christ...."

Mr. Sproul says, there is an absolute condition, a condition that God requires of men, and which men must meet if they are to be loved complacently by God.

May I ask, how is that absolute condition to be met by men (not yet loved complacently by God) who are dead in trespasses and sins?

How, Sir? Don't your followers ask simple questions like this? Also, what has happened to your doctrine of the total depravity of natural men?

What must a man (who is outside of Christ, therefore still in his native state of sin and death) do in order to be in Christ and to enjoy God's love of complacency?

Is Mr Sproul a preacher of conditional salvation? Just asking.

My understanding:

God, freely and sovereignly, WITHOUT condition, vitally unites us to Christ while we were dead in trespasses and sins when He freely and effectually call us out of our native state of sin and death to that state of grace and salvation in Christ Jesus and makes us vital beneficiaries of His electing love.

ONLY then He commands us, through the ministry of the word, to believe the truth of our salvation by His free grace in Jesus Christ. He calls us to believe WHAT IS ALREADY TRUE, what He HAS DONE freely and sovereignly. Those whom He has freely and sovereignly loved complacently are commanded to believe the truth of that redemptive love in Jesus Christ proclaimed in the gospel.

Repenting and believing in Jesus Christ is an effect and evidence of God having loved us redemptively [Mr's Sproul's "complacently"] in Jesus Christ.

NO CONDITION, Mr. Sproul!

p/s

Mr. Sproul, a typical Calvinist, fails to distinguish the eternal salvation that is without condition, and the temporal salvation that is conditioned upon the obedience of His children doing His will.

The eternal salvation relates to the activities of the Triune God in turning an elect, dead in trespasses and sins, into a child of God. In this, a man is completely passive. A man MUST BE SAVED by God first before any command can be obeyed. Eternal salvation must be freely bestowed FIRST before there can be any obedience in any evangelical sense. The doctrine of total depravity DEMANDS that! "Except a man be born again he CANNOT..."

The temporal salvation relates to the spiritual well-being of God's children through their active obeying and doing the will of their Father in Jesus Christ, that is, meeting the conditions laid down by the Father for them. That is the salvation that they must work out for themselves through their active obedience. Believing and repenting are in this category; only God's children are capable of believing and repenting.