Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things" 2Ti 2:7.

Wednesday, March 4, 2015

"Even so" and its implication - Romans 5:18



October 2, 2010 at 10:52pm

Romans 5:18
"Therefore as by the offence of one
judgment came upon all men to condemnation [of death];
EVEN SO
by the righteousness of one
the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."

Please note the two tiny but pivotal words, "EVEN SO" and its implications.

Sing F Lau
The legal condemnation of the whole human race took place in the garden of Eden through the action of Adam.
- EVEN SO, the elect's legal justification took place at the cross through the redemptive acts of Christ on the cross.

A man's legal condemnation became personal at his conception; he was conceived and born in sin. Imputed condemnation was applied to him personally. He was ENTIRELY passive at his conception (prior to conception, he did not exist as a personal entity, even though he existed as a legal entity) and birth.
- EVEN SO, an elect's legal justification became personal when it is applied to him personally at his spiritual birth, when God effectually called him out of the state of sin and death to that of grace and salvation in Christ Jesus. He was entirely passive in his justification by God's free grace, and regeneration by the Spirit. An elect in the state of condemnation of death can't possibly do any spiritual act to assist in his justification before God).

A man's personal condemnation is experienced by his actual acts of sins and transgression. He experiences the guilt and condemnation of his transgression of God's law. Many do not live old enough to experience the effects their state of condemnation in this life.
- EVEN SO, and elect's justified state by God's free grace is EXPERIENCED by his acts of believing in Christ - an act of righteousness - through the gospel ministry. They experienced the blessedness of their justified stated through faith and works of righteousness.

A man's personal and experiential condemnation shall finally be publicly vindicated before all the saints and the holy angels on the great day of judgment, and be cast into the lake of fire.
- EVEN SO, the elect's personal and experiential justification shall finally be publicly vindicated before the wicked and the fallen angels on the great day of judgment.

Sing F Lau
New school calvinists adamantly insist that regeneration by the Spirit of God MUST LOGICALLY precede the forensic/LEGAL justification by God through their faith, since only the regenerated are able to believe. Such fable is repudiated by the Scripture under consideration.

Romans 5:18 "Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; EVEN SO by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."

Sin brought the condemnation of death.
- Can life be given before the condemnation of death is removed by the justification of life?

Righteousness is the prerequisite of life.
- Can there be life before the righteousness of life has been APPLIED personally?

God the Father and God the Spirit work in perfect harmony.
- Will the Spirit regenerate someone whom the Father has not justified, i.e. has removed the condemnation of death through the application of the righteousness of Christ?

Go figure out, dear brothers!

With all due respect, new school calvinists are some of the most irrational folks around... no more sounder than the Arminians they despised and ridiculed! Read this charge here!
http://things-new-and-old.blogspot.com/2009/09/therefore-as-arminians-reject-doctrine.html

Ardit
Excellent! I've often speculated why the second half of the verse is not upheld to the same standard as the first.

Sing F Lau
Justification by God's free grace LOGICALLY precedes regeneration... regeneration is only possible after the righteousness of life has been imputed, AND applied personally.

Justification by God's free grace is called 'justification of life' because in justification the righteousness of life is APPLIED (it was IMPUTED at the cross) personally, thus giving divine warrant for the Spirit of God to regenerate the justified.

Justification by the believing act of God's children FOLLOWS regeneration, because only a regenerated elect, i.e. a child of God can believe. This simple fact that only a child of God can believe DEBUNKS the POPULAR and IRRATIONAL IDEA that one must believe in order to be justified by God.

How can a person who can believe (and therefore possesses eternal life) is still unjustified, and needed to believe in order to be justified before God? And new school calvinists who boast to be logical and rational believe such irrational and nonsensical notion - you must believe in order to be justified by God!

The verdict, Ro 3:24 "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus."

Sing F Lau
‎"the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."
1. The FREE GIFT... 'free' means 'free', without any condition whatsoever. A 'gift' is a 'gift' - costing the recipient ABSOLUTELY nothing, and without him asking or desiring for it.

2. 'CAME' - simple past tense (English..., anyway). It happened, a done thing. The justification through the imputation of Christ righteousness happened at the cross. It was a done thing... when we DID NOT even exist as personal being... even though we existed as legal entity in the Book of Life!

3. 'ALL MEN' - yes, ALL MEN, not one more and not one less, all that are in Christ Jesus, given to Christ, His people, as many as He represented. Adam represented the whole human race. Christ represented all that God has given to Him out of the fallen human race.

4. "UNTO JUSTIFICATION OF LIFE" - sin brought condemnation of death. Justification by God through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus is justification unto life... because in justification, the righteousness of Jesus Christ is IMPUTED to all His people at the cross, and righteousness is the prerequisite to life.

IMPUTATION of Christ's righteousness does not requires the actual existence of a person... it is a LEGAL transaction. The elect existed as legal entities, each name listed in the Lamb's Book of Life.

APPLICATION or IMPARTATION of Christ's righteousness requires the personal existence of the recipients.

Patron
a reprobate is in sin and condemned because the seed of the physical father, don't have to wait for birth, is the seed of a fallen men, the seed of Adam.... I think so, right?

Patron
‎*your quote:" Each member of Christ's family is a legal entity prior to existing as a personal entity before the foundation of the world. All the legal entities' names were entered in the book of life before the foundation of the world."
*Revelation 3: 5 The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels. 6 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.'

*I just wanna ask you because I get confuse when the Lord is saying He won't blot out his name those who conquer.... my question:
there are some that will have their name blot out? . They are in first, and then blot out? please Sing can you instruct me so I can understand the Lord warning on verse 5. Thanks

Sing F Lau
You ask a very interesting question.
Here is an outline on the Book of Life:
http://www.letgodbetrue.com/sermons/pdf/book-of-life.pdf

...The author explained the following about Revelation 3:5, thus
"He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."
1. It DOES NOT threaten to blot their names out.
2. It DOES NOT say that any get their names blotted out.
3. It DOES NOT say it is possible for names to be blotted out.
4. It only encourages the faithful that they will not be blotted out.
5. It is common among men to blot names out of wills and trusts.
6. God cannot and will not lose a single one of His elect.
7. Therefore, it is only positive encouragement to be an overcomer.

To say otherwise has many grave implications upon the characters of the Lord, and the gospel truth.

Patron
Thanks Sing! very bless by outline
Posted by at