Whatever has gone wrong, a reformed man
making statements like these:
"Old Testament saints were not
regenerated and Spirit filled, even though declared righteous by God...
Indewelling was not till Pentecost... No person was born again of the Spirit
before Pentecost... Abraham was never a new man as are the new testament saints."
Have you heard such things before?
Sing F Lau
Here is the complete quote... just to be sure
that I am not accused of quoting out of context:
"Old Testament saints were not
regenerated and Spirit filled, even though declared righteous by God.
The Spirit would come upon them and sometimes
remain... for some time, but was never an indewelling entity. Indewelling was
not till Pentecost, although John the Baptist seems to be an exception. No
person was born again of the Spirit before Pentecost. Jesus breathed on Peter
and some of the other disciples and said receive the Holy Spirit, but they were
not born again until Pentecost.
In Romans 5 and 6, Paul describes the process
of being born again from an objective point of view. Therefore having been justified
by faith, this is the very first step. Then he follows step by step through
chapter 6.
Abraham was never a new man as are the new
testament saints."
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The author claims to be a reformed man.
This is something NEW under the sun!
Have you read such things in the Holy
Scriptures?
Alan Lloyd
why then does David say in Psalm 51 take not
thy Spirit from me if he was not being continually indwelt, people need to deal
with the junk their taught in seminaries.
Ashley Juliot
I know of a "reformed" pastor who
said this very thing to me a few weeks ago... He is also a dispensationalist.
Charles Page
I knew he was in trouble when he commented
that to your post! LOL
Jerry Chapin
" Let them alone: they be blind leaders
of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the
ditch." Mt.15:14
Jerry Chapin
@Sing, Pretty soon they'll be addressing each
other as, Reformed Reverend So and So.
Sing F Lau
I begin to think that the label 'reformed' is
very fashionable, and men love to label themselves 'reformed' to give
themselves an air of 'superiority' and 'scholarship'.
PERHAPS [sic] that may be why EVEN a donkey of a man would also want to have the elitist 'reformed' label.
Alan Lloyd
or they just like to avoid the stigma
attached to calvinism maybe!
DJ Keesee
Apparently, Old Testament saints will not see
the Kingdom?
Alan Lloyd
thought they were already in it.
Sing F Lau
ALL SAINTS - i.e. separated from their native
state of sin and death to that of grace and salvation - WILL BE IN HEAVEN.
Many OT saints did not see the kingdom of heaven inaugurated by Christ's coming. The 'kingdom of heaven' is chiefly a term used to contrast the new covenant kingdom of heaven against the old earthly theocratic kingdom of Israel.
Some OT saints were in the old earthly theocratic kingdom of Israel. They did enter the kingdom of heaven.
Many of God's saints were neither part of the
old earthly theocratic kingdom of Israel nor the kingdom of heaven.