Things New and Old

Ancient truths revealed in the Scriptures are often forgotten, disbelieved or distorted, and therefore lost in the passage of time. Such ancient truths when rediscovered and relearned are 'new' additions to the treasury of ancient truths.

Christ showed many new things to the disciples, things prophesied by the prophets of old but hijacked and perverted by the elders and their traditions, but which Christ reclaimed and returned to His people.

Many things taught by the Apostles of Christ have been perverted or substituted over the centuries. Such fundamental doctrines like salvation by grace and justification have been hijacked and perverted and repudiated by sincere Christians. These doctrines need to be reclaimed and restored to God's people.

There are things both new and old here. "Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things" 2Ti 2:7.

Thursday, March 12, 2015

A good conscience

'1Pet 3:21-22 Translation 1 21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you - not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience - through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 22 who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him. Translation 2 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. [Thanks to Ante Zivkovic for the alert] ================= Translation 1: "an appeal to God for a good conscience." Translation 2 : "the answer of a good conscience toward God." And so many think it matters not which translation they use!!! Even a Chinese village bumpkin like me knows the VAST difference between the two! "AN APPEAL to God for a good conscience" and "the answer of a good conscience toward God" are two COMPLETELY different things. For a start: - The former implies a man DOES NOT yet have a good conscience; he is appealing to get one. - The latter presupposes a man has a good conscience, and is doing something to evidence it. You can think further on the subject.'

 A good conscience:
- is baptism a man's appeal to God for a good conscience, or
- is baptism a man's answer to God from a good conscience?

Or are they same, and don't waste time splitting facial hairs!

1Pet 3:21-22

Translation 1
21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you - not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience - through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
22 who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.

Translation 2
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
[Thanks to Ante Zivkovic for the alert]

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Translation 1: "an appeal to God for a good conscience."
Translation 2 : "the answer of a good conscience toward God."

And so many think it matters not which translation they use!!!
Even a Chinese village bumpkin like me knows the VAST difference between the two!
"AN APPEAL to God for a good conscience" and "the answer of a good conscience toward God" are two COMPLETELY different things.

For a start, just state two STARK differences:
- The former implies a man DOES NOT yet have a good conscience; he is appealing to get one.
- The latter presupposes a man has a good conscience, and is doing something to evidence it.

- "... not the removal of dirt from the flesh..."
- "... the putting away of the filth of the flesh...

Only the ignorant cannot discern the vast difference between the two.

You can think further on the subject.

Go here for an excellent article:

Modern Bibles Corrupt Best Verse on Baptism
www.letgodbetrue.com/bible/baptism/best-verse-corrupted.php  
Modern Bibles Corrupt Best Verse on Baptism "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God."
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